That Wasn't The Plan
That Wasn't The Plan
Human stories for those struggling to be human.
A podcast for anyone whose life took a left turn when you were peacefully asleep.
Life doesn't come with a script—thank god, because ours would've been returned for rewrites.
Warning: May cause unexpected feelings, snort-laughing, and the overwhelming urge to text us your own "that wasn't the plan" story.
Join co-hosts Emily White and Courtney Holland as they navigate the beautiful disasters, plot twists, and "well, that happened" moments that nobody warned you about. From bed bugs, winning the lottery, breaking your neck, and finding a furry lump on the side of the road that turns out to be your best friend.
We're here to talk about the stuff that wasn't in your life plan: Getting sober. Couch-surfing at 35. Teaching Jazzercise in a thong leotard at 5 AM (Courtney looks great, by the way). Death showing up uninvited. Your career ghosting you.
Each episode brings you real stories, terrible advice, excellent commiseration, and the reminder that if your life feels like a dumpster fire, at least you're in good company.
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Remember: Just because it wasn't the plan doesn't mean it wasn't supposed to happen.
That Wasn't The Plan
What Would Binti Jua Do? - ft. Rescue Animals
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No guest this week — just Emily and Courtney, a rainy day, some research, and an hour of the purest content this podcast has ever produced: animals doing extraordinary things for humans, for each other, and sometimes just because.
This one started with the 9/11 anniversary, a story about rescue dogs, and a myth about beavers keeping a little boy warm. It ended with a dolphin in New Zealand talking two stranded whales home to open ocean. In between: lions in Ethiopia, a sea lion off the Golden Gate Bridge, a gorilla named Binti Jua, a parrot named Willie, a pot-bellied pig named Lulu, a 22-pound rabbit named Dory, an elephant named Ning Yang, and Courtney's late Chihuahuas Rooster and Dwayne Taylor Brown, who woke her up before an earthquake in LA and remain legendary.
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"Do it for Binti." — Emily White, 2025
📎 Documentaries mentioned:
- 🐋 Fathom — whale communication documentary, highly recommended
- 🌉 The Bridge — documentary about the Golden Gate Bridge. Heavy. Interesting. Not for everyone.
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Well, hello there, Courtney Holland. Hello there, Emily White. Woo! Yeah. Show me, show me that uh mane you got real quick. Yeah, that's it. It's it feels very I dream of Jeannie. Yeah. Is that what she does? She does a little dance. I don't know what that was, but that is.
SPEAKER_01It was like a Fossy like go-go dancer cat. Okay. I guess. I guess it just yeah.
SPEAKER_00No, improv, baby. You feel very um Barbara. I forget her last name. Barbarella. Or Barbara. No. She plays I dream of Jeannie. But Barbarella, you know, is kind of in the same era, perhaps. You were like, no, and no. Not even no. I tried. I for I forget her name. Anyways, um thank you everyone for tuning in to that wasn't the plan. Thank you. It wasn't the plan for Courtney to be on week four of this horrific cold cough situation she's got.
SPEAKER_01The good news is I feel fine, but the bad news is every time I laugh, which I make myself laugh all the time because I'm a hoot, and uh I immediately I immediately go into the like when I laugh, and then I go into a coughing fit. So it's it's gotten bed tur for sure. Good. But it's still really annoying.
SPEAKER_00Well, you won't be laughing too much today because we are not talking about anything fun or funny, unfortunately. We're talking about animals.
SPEAKER_01Animals that save the fucking day. God. The best. The best the only thing I want to talk about ever, really, is animals. And just yeah, the cool things that they do and how cute they are and just what they've been thinking about. Like speaking of which is my she's not there right now. I gave her a big old rib bone to chew on while we're here. She was torturing her brother under the bed, little rascals. I'm very excited to talk about this because ever since so when 9-11, the anniversary of 9-11, I don't know what year we're at. Are we at 20 something?
SPEAKER_00We're 25, actually. This year. Oh, it was the 25th. Okay. Yeah, because it was 2001. And I if I did my math properly, then yes, it's 25 years. Which is cool. Well, I don't do math. That's do you remember where you were when that happened? Absolutely. Everybody is, right? Exactly. Like everything that happened that morning, I re remember like it was yesterday. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But what I really started to think about with 9-11, well, I remember a long time ago, uh, my sister had told me there was these rescue dogs that they had to bring in. Uh, I forget what their titles were, but they brought all these dogs in to help try and find survivors in the rubble. And unfortunately, they were mostly finding bodies. They weren't finding anyone alive. And so the story goes, the the dogs were becoming depressed. So they would take the dogs away from um the location and they'd get people under the rubble a little bit so they could find live people. And so it would kind of put steam.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. They felt like they were accomplishing the task of finding people.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that was so hard.
SPEAKER_00And very sweet.
SPEAKER_01The thing is, I did some research on it, and it's not as sweet as it sounds. Like the dogs weren't getting depressed, they were just they're like, listen, there's nothing I'm not gonna find, like they just were not finding. So it was more for the boost of like morale. Well, I guess it's the same thing, but I don't know. I read something that was like, that's a myth. The dogs weren't depressed, the dogs, I'm sure the dogs were feeling the energy for sure that things were pretty heavy too. Yeah, animals pick up on all of that for sure. But yeah, so that that got me thinking, just you know, when you're on your phone at 3 a.m. and you're thinking, like, you know, how tall was Jesus? So it got me thinking about have animals come in to save the day? Which you know there's tons of stories, and we've all heard some of them, but there were a few I hadn't heard, and then there's particularly one that I have to revisit at least once a year because it just brings joy to my heart. Um take me on a journey today, Courtney. Let's go on a journey. The first journey is gonna go to Ethiopia 2005. Um, a 12-year-old girl was kidnapped by three men, and I did fact check this, so I I even the Guardian reported this. So, and I like the Guardian, that's kind of where I get my news. So these men kidnapped this girl, took her out into like rural Ethiopia, um, and they had her for a week, and then they were transporting her to another location, and her screams drew attention from three adolescent lions. So these lions came in, attacked the men, chased the men off, yeah, and then stayed there with her. Not like, you know, I'm not trying to disney disneyze the story like because I want to know the facts. Like so the lions I can imagine what the men were doing to her. Of course. Well, and they the story says that they were forcing her into uh arranged marriage, which I also believe I've seen sex trafficking probably, and um, you know, who God knows what else. This is in 2005. So um, so these lions stood, they they stayed near her. They didn't like they weren't like cuddling up to her, like it wasn't. But the when the police came, the Ethiopian police came, the lions just left. And one of the cops said a quote, it was like the lions had brought us a gift and they just left. Didn't give any more trouble.
SPEAKER_00Right? Do we that's incredible. Do we know if the lions were male or female or they couldn't tell because they were adolescent?
SPEAKER_01I think they said males. I think they were males. If what I was reading is, and I read it a couple different places. So I was trying to, you know, because of course I want to be like the lion snuggled her and held her and said, You're you're good enough, you're strong enough. Wow, the lions have a voice just like my vagina. Oh boy. Um boy.
SPEAKER_00Here we go.
SPEAKER_01Boy, that's I gotta that's a I gotta unpack that in therapy. Lord help me. Um but so like how wonderful. Like the lion, and they the the there have been scientists that have talked about it, like maybe the call or the scream of the girl sounded a lot like the mew of a of a cub. And so maybe that was why, but but it sounds legit. So I mean, who would have thunk? Don't worry, the lions will protect me.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, I I have I've heard of that story before, and yes, I actually do believe it. And um, a baby's cry does sound like a cat oftentimes. Like if I'm watching TV and there's a baby crying or something, my cat will perk right up and start looking for you know where the other cat or something is, or if she's if we're playing and she gets a little too rough, and I start going, you know, like crying, but in a fake like baby kind of cry, she'll immediately like release. Release!
SPEAKER_01I want I know what movie that's from. Did you quote a movie? I didn't it's uh Father of the Bride, right? Yes, yes, relent, relent, yeah, repent, recoil. God, I love Steve Martin. He's so good, so good. So upon that finding of that story, I did come upon another story. Um, takes place in the United States, where um uh the story goes a boy watched his parents boat capsize on a lake, watched them drown, and then as he's trying to walk back to town, he's so cold he just curls up by the bank of the river. And the story goes that three beavers surrounded him and cuddled him and kept him warm until morning. And that is a myth. That is debunked, that is not a true story. Like scientists are like, beavers, they don't give they're they're wary of humans, they're territorial, they're not gonna snuggle up with a boy, like so I'd like they just swap their fat tail right on and keep him warm.
SPEAKER_00Or they're they just like yeah, I I had uh other questions, but if it's fake, I'm not gonna ask them. I know. So yeah, but I I liked finding yeah. That there it takes me back to that other fake story that I thought was true about the boy that wanders off in like Georgia or something, and this technically happened a few years back, maybe within the last five years. And there's trail footage cam of him being walked back home by a pack of wolves. Do you remember seeing that story? I do. Yeah, that's totally fake. They faked that one too, so that's not that's not real, but it's really real, right?
SPEAKER_01Well, an AI is doing they were really getting me with the animal stuff. Like there was one video where a donkey is like fighting a bunch of coyotes to protect an old dog behind him, and that was not real. I feel like unfortunately, like I I want to believe it, but I'm also I like that I'm also a skeptic. I'm not gonna be like, who, of course.
SPEAKER_00I know. I I want to let everyone who's using AI say, go ahead, if you want to make content, you know, if you think you're an artist, well, you go ahead and make content that way. But don't make animal content. Like, let's leave the animal stories real. I want to see let's leave those stories and videos real. Unless it's like cats playing poker and it's obviously fake. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it's not even enjoyable to watch an AI video because it's like this means nothing to anyone anywhere. Like, yeah. I dream of Genie, don't do it. Don't do it. There you go. All right, what else you got? So another one that I also uh did my did my due diligence, and I have actually seen this gentleman interviewed um on a documentary years ago. So I knew of him. So this this guy was 19 years old, um, having a mental health crisis, goes to the Golden Gate Bridge, jumps off to commit suicide. Miraculously, he doesn't die, but he's incredibly injured. He's got multiple broken vertebrae. Um, and he says that he's in the water and he's struggling to stay afloat, and then he feels something brush against his back, and then he feels something that it was almost like something was keeping him afloat because he's in and out, like not fully with it. Um and then the Coast Guard finally gets there and they realize it was a sea lion. Yeah, Kevin Hines is his name. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And they think like they were he was guarding him or something until just trying to keep him afloat because he couldn't swim. Okay, okay isn't that wild? That is amazing. I I can't believe he very few people have survived that fall, that jump.
SPEAKER_01That dot there's a documentary called The Bridge. The subject matter is compelling because they're like setting up cameras to record the bridge, and they caught a uh quite I I forget what the number is, um, over a six-month period, a bunch of suicides. So, what they do is they reach out to the families of these people, and they're able to make contact with the families and talk about where that person was at that time. Um, and there's one where there's a photographer taking photographs on the bridge. Wait, what are we supposed to be talking about? Fun animals. What am I doing? Anyway, check it out. It's interesting, it's a little they use music that I don't love. Um, it just seems really like it's very dramatic content, so I don't feel like dramatic music is needed, but I agree.
SPEAKER_00I was watching some Shark Week a few last month or whenever it was out. And I feel like a lot of these kind of short form documentary, like 30-minute episodes and stuff, all use the same like emic thematic music that I'm just like enough already. It makes it cheap. Yeah, it just makes sense. And then they're like, Yeah. And then they're like, and now blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, get over it. Like, yeah, get out of my mind. Can we can we change it up? I hey folks at the Discovery Channel. I'm a producer, I'm a story coach and developmental editor. If you need somebody to come in and rejuzge, you can hire me. Oh my god, the professional rejur. I went and saw a movie last night, and I was just like taking mental notes, like plot holes and this and that, and I'm like, ugh. Wow, what movie? Practical magic too. How was it? You know, it was delightful, but there were so many things that I was like, oh Hollywood, like make a good film. Like this is just this is popcorn, and it didn't need to be because they stayed actually the first Practical Magic movie did not stay true to the book, which I appreciated. I didn't care for the book that much. I yeah, uh, there's four books in the series. Um and I didn't care for the book as much as I liked what they did for the movie, so you know, kudos to them. But and this actually the second one stayed true to the book that comes after.
SPEAKER_01Interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um you'd like them, and I don't mean to derail us from the animals, but anyways, yes, there were some there were some moments and things in the movie that I stepped out and I was like, oh boy. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Make sure.
SPEAKER_00For as much money and yeah, that they probably spent producing these that I was like Well, they had Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock.
SPEAKER_01You need not do all that much, because that's I I mean, I'd watch them do, especially Sandra Bullock. I think she's she's I love her delightful. I love them both, but yes, I do, yeah. Okay. Nicole too. I love you too. All right. Yeah, yeah. And this one is and hope I don't think I'm gonna cry because I've been crying over it so many times. So I remember when I was a child, um, the story of the the gorilla that protected a little boy um that fell into the gorilla pin at Brookfield Zoo. So her name is Binti Jua.
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SPEAKER_01This is in Chicago, 1996, at the Brookfield Zoo. So a four a three-year-old boy fell 18 feet into a concrete gorilla enclosure. So where was your mommy? Where were your parents? That's all I'm gonna say there.
SPEAKER_00I mean, if this had been 1986, I would have been like, yeah, parents never around. But no, I think 1996 were getting closer. Yeah, the the c people were cracking down on folks for actually raising their children. Yeah, which was nice. So you didn't just give them a menthol cigarette and a can of beer when they got home from school.
SPEAKER_01Get me a bag of Cheetos, kid. What do you mean you can't drive you 13?
SPEAKER_00Pretty much. Just get in the back of the the way, way, way back of the car and we'll take you on a hundred-mile road trip. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Um, which the generation that was raised during that time, there's something to be said of being ours, yes. Yeah, being I was raised in that the 80s. Yeah. I mean, my dad was pretty honest. Anyhow, back to Binti, Binti Jewa, who I would love to get her face tattooed on me. I, you know, you know how you randomly are like, I should get a tattoo. So um, Binti Jewa is an eight-year-old gorilla, Western lowland gorilla. She was raised in captivity, so she was raised by humans. Um so she is in the enclosure when this little boy falls into it, um, super hurt, crying, like hardly able to move. Um, and there's video footage of all of this. Um so she goes over to him. She has her infant on her back at the time. She goes over to him, she picks him up, and he and takes him over to where the um the the doors open where the um zookeepers are, and she leaves him there. And when she held him and then she took him over to the door, or when when she heard them opening the door, I believe, she left him there and went walked away. Like with her baby on her back. What? How incredible and just for her to hear a child like and so so I I went on a deeper dive. I tried to find like scientific papers about papers, uh Googled science research of Binti Jew a gorilla, and they talk about how Yeah, I went to the I went to the dark web.
SPEAKER_00No, you went I was gonna say you went to the library and got on the microfiche and started looking at the biggest. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Oh god, I would love to do that. I would love that. Um, but so scientists have discussed it about like, is it because she was raised by humans that she um was more um but then there was another case where a it was a male gorilla um protected a boy that had fallen, and they're always boys, folks, um, and protected another, and he was raised in the wild. So there's two different situations where this has like happened, and so they're trying to understand, you know, what made this gorilla and she so another little known fact, she's a distant cousin of Coco from Coco. How do you know? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I just knew.
SPEAKER_01I just knew Coco's Kitten. Oh god, I could die Coco's kitten. She's trying to sign to the kitten. I feel it like welling up in my heart and my chest. I'm like, oh god.
SPEAKER_00We might have to title this episode Coco's Kitten.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Oh god. And I have that book, Coco's Kitten. And then there's anyhow, so she so uh Binti Jua is a distant relative of, I believe it's a cousin of of Coco. So um I just thought that was um and she's still alive in in Chicago. She is, she's still keeping it real. I know. I was surprised, but they're gonna say hi to Benty. God, I just don't know if I could handle it. It'd be like meeting Tom York. I might get super emotional. With Benty Jewa like looking up all that information. I uh I don't like to visit this story, but um I did. You could probably imagine what it is, uh, about Harambe, the gorilla that they had to kill um at the zoo where a boy fell in. Well it was reported that the boy was announcing it to many people, like I'm gonna be crawling into the gorilla cage. And he did. And Harambe, uh, from the footage I've seen, he it's it's hard to watch because it's like it's incredible the power of a gorilla. Like he has him by the foot and he kind of dragged him in the water a little bit, and it just seems like AI. Like it just was like, holy crap! And so the zookie boy died. The boy lived. The he wasn't even hurt, really. It was but they had to shoot and kill Harambe, which was that's usable. Absolutely devastating to the folks that they had been working with that gorilla. Can you imagine like no devoting your life?
SPEAKER_00No, especially I mean, a the boy didn't die. You take a risk when you go inside a zoo and you let your kid do whatever the hell they want. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the animal's fault. These are wild animals. Granted, some of these, you know, that we have in zoos are raised in captivity. That doesn't mean that they understand what they're doing in there. In fact, they should never be in a zoo. Zoos are very depressing for me. It's so depressing. Oh god. I mean, there are some good stories, but yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, there are rescue places that are great, you know, that they can't release animals back into the wild because they haven't been there for so long or they're injured and they can't take the defend themselves if they are. So, you know, there's there we need a place for these animals to go and live a happy life. But yeah, uh I I do not agree with euthanasia for animals that uh that are just defending themselves or you know, attacking like that. Yeah. Let that boy die.
SPEAKER_01I I mean and then and then there was this huge internet like explosion around it where I I like people that were working at the zoo were so devastated and so traumatized by it because they had, you know, their lives were loving and caring for the well-being of these animals and to have to shoot and kill him, this giant gorilla that you know, he's just doing his thing, then this other thing falls into his world. And I mean, I don't know. I I get it.
SPEAKER_00Like you know, he doesn't have the maternal instinct that a female primate likely has, especially with bint Binti Bintu with her baby on her back, so she knew what like a small child or a small being. Was all about, but a large male, maybe silverback gorilla, doesn't have that same maternal, like loving instinct. And he caught probably thought it was some sort of a toy. Not sure. But yeah. And I'm sure his caretakers knew actually kind of what personality he had. And I I would, I don't know, but I would, you know, argue that he probably wasn't a violent gorilla, otherwise.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So it does say that that this kid climbed under a fence into the outdoor gorilla enclosure where he was grabbed and violently dragged and thrown. So he was thrown. So fearing for the boy's life, a zoo worker shot and killed Harambe. The incident was recorded on video and received broadband international coverage and commentary, including controversy over the choice to use lethal force. Several primatologists and cons conservationists wrote later that the zoo had no other it's true, the zoo had no choice. Like it's one of those things.
SPEAKER_00Um but they have stabilizer darts or anything.
SPEAKER_01That's what I thought, and I'm sure they may have, but he may have been able to hurt hurt him. Like, I don't know. I'm sure, you know, I'm not a I don't work at a zoo and I don't understand the animal, but God, that's just it's just heartbreaking. And I know that the people there was like so many memes that were created, and this was in oh, it was in 2016, that's right, when the world was already on fire. Um you know, this happens. I remember when it happened, and I thought it had happened in the pandemic. But yeah, there were a bunch of memes that came out that were incredibly painful for the folks that worked at the you know, at the zoo. Lordy. Yeah. So that's one of the sad ones. Um, there was a oh, Dick Van Dyke. Jerry is his name Jerry or Dick Van Dyke, Jerry Van Dyke. Well, there's both. Okay. Two to two. Are they in remain are they related? It doesn't matter. One of the dykes. One of the van dykes. There you go. Um, when he was younger, he was swimming out on uh he had paddled out onto the ocean on his surfboard, and and he said he laid back and took a nap. And when he woke, he saw no land. He had drifted so far he could not see the land, and he said he started to cry and panic. And suddenly a group of dolphins were around him and kind of leading him back to so he started paddling and they kind of led him back to um Incredible. Isn't that that new? Yeah, I want that story.
SPEAKER_00I want to I found a few dolphin saving stories. Oh, yeah, dolphins are incredible. Do you want you want me to share a few of them? Yeah, please. Okay, all right. So in 2004, dolphins surround four swimmers to protect them from a great white shark. And this happened in New Zealand. Lifeguard Rob Howes, his 15-year-old daughter Nissi, and two other swimmers were about 100 meters offshore when a pot of dolphins suddenly began behaving strangely. They herded all four humans into a tight group and began swimming circles around them. Then Howes tried to swim away. Two larger dolphins forced him back inside the circle, and then he saw why. A roughly 10-foot great white shark was about six feet away. The dolphins maintained their defensive formation around the humans for approximately 40 minutes until the shark departed and the swimmers could get ashore. Multiple people witnessed this event. Yeah. Um, and then in 2007, Todd Endris gets mauled by a great white shark. Um, so surfer Todd Endris was attacked off the coast of California by a great white shark off Marina State Beach. The shark struck him three times and tore his back and right leg open. Then the dolphins that had been swimming nearby apparently rushed into the encounter. Witnesses reported dolphins jumping around Endris and slapping the water, and a pod reportedly formed a protective area around him while he made it towards shore. Endriss himself later told Larry King, dolphins saved me. He said there was not a doubt in his mind that they had intervened. Wow. And then there's another one from 1996 in Egypt. Martin Richardson is do you know this one? Mm-mm. Oh, okay. I do not. Um so British tourist Martin Martin Richardson was swimming near the Sinai Peninsula when sharks began attacking him. People on the boat saw him suddenly thrown upward and heard him scream. Then three dolphins reportedly charged into the bloody water. Witnesses say they leapt, slapped their tails, and positioned themselves around Richardson between him and the sharks while rescuers approached in a dinghy. Um Richardson survived and was hospitalized. Uh yeah. Holy smokes. Yeah. And then there's one of a humpback whale. I've got I I did some deep dive on the ocean creatures.
SPEAKER_01On the ocean piece, yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I d I believe there was that footage of a woman who was being like pushed by a blue uh humpback whale.
SPEAKER_00So this is the famous Nan Hauser incident, and there is a video of this. So Hauser is a whale biologist who has spent decades studying humpbacks. During a dive, a huge humpback suddenly became extremely physical with her. It kept pushing her with its head, tucked her beneath its enormous pectoral fin, and at one point lifted her toward the surface. She was terrified. Then she got back in the boat and saw what had been nearby, a tiger shark. Hauser believes the whale was intentionally protecting her, particularly because humpbacks are known to intervene when other animals are threatened by predators. Um, other whale researchers who reviewed the footage said we cannot know what the whale's intent was from the video alone. So, you know, did this 40-ton humpback whale save her from a tiger shark? I would think so. Yeah. I I say yes. I my scientific um take on that is yes. Mm-hmm. And then there's one of a beluga whale saving someone as well. Oh wow. Okay. So 2009, China, 26-year-old Yang Young was participating in a free diving competition in an aquarium pool containing beluga. So they were already in like this giant pool. At the bottom of the roughly 20-foot deep pool, her legs cramped in the freezing water. She couldn't swim back upward. She began choking and sinking. A beluga named Mila apparently recognized something was wrong, swam down, gently took Yun's leg in her mouth and propelled her all the way to the surface. Yun survived. Um, there are witnesses, photographs, and videos associated with this event. She said a whale has my leg in its mouth, and that's actually good news, is what she was thinking.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh we need to start every day with just stories about animals doing stuff like this.
SPEAKER_00That's a good one. Yeah. Um it just feels good in here. Yeah. I've got one about a potbellied pig. Hit it. Hit it. All right. Lulu the potbellied pig stops traffic. Lulu. Joanne Altsman suffered a heart attack while staying in a vacation trailer and she couldn't get help. Her Vietnamese potbellied pig, Lulu, somehow realized that something was wrong. So somehow Lulu got outside the trailer, went into the road, and then she laid down in traffic. And then a car came up, stopped, Lulu got up and started to walk away, but the driver started driving away. Lulu ran back in front of the car and laid back down in the road. Eventually, like she convinced this driver, you know, that something was wrong. He got he gets out of his car. He follows Lulu back to the trailer where he discovered Altman and called the emergency for help. Uh the ordeal took about 45 minutes, and yeah, everyone attributes her pig saving her life.
SPEAKER_01Two times Lulu was like, na na na na na.
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SPEAKER_01I love that her name's Lulu. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna get off mammals for a second.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00A parrot saved a choking toddler. Okay. Colorado 2008. A babysitter named Megan Howard stepped into the bathroom while two-year-old Hannah was eating. Hannah began choking on a pop-tart. She couldn't make any noise, but the family's Quaker parrot, Willie, saw what was happening. Willie began frantically flapping and screaming and said, Mama, baby, mama, baby. Megan ran out. Hannah was already turning blue. She was able to perform the Heimlich maneuver and dislodge the food from Hannah's throat. Uh the sitter credited Willie with saving the child's life.
SPEAKER_01Mama, baby. Oh my gosh. Yeah. This is some this is some really wow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And then do you remember that tsunami that happened in Thailand in 2004 on Boxing Day, right after Christmas? That horror Yeah. Oh my gosh. An elephant carried an eight-year-old girl away from Yeah. So How did she carry like in her trunk? Eight-year-old Amber Owen was riding an elephant named Ning Yang near the beach in Phuket when the elephant suddenly became very agitated. As the ocean behaved strangely before the tsunami arrived, Ning Yong ran inland toward higher ground with Amber still on his back. Uh the handler followed. Minutes later, the tsunami devastated the beach. They had just left. Amber survived her family credit, and Ying Yong's behavior was saving her life. So whether the animal knew like she was saving the human on her back or just like running for the hills because like I'm mad at what you do. She's like, yeah, don't care. Anyway, yeah, somebody else survived that, which is great.
SPEAKER_01I do remember in animals are they pick up on the you know natural disasters before they happen, like pot uh Rooster, R.I.P. and Dwayne Taylor Brown, R.I.P., our two chihuahuas. Uh, when I was in LA, we had one big earthquake, uh, I think it was like 2006 or seven. And both dum-dums woke up, it was in the middle of the night, and started barking before it happened. They were like losing their minds, and they aren't they weren't big barkers, they weren't like this loser. Um, but yeah, woke us up and then it was like, woo, it was crazy. So we all talk about how like they were like they woke us up to be terrified for a little while, and then we all went back to sleep.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, I always think like if I'm outside and I see animals like fleeing an area, you know, yeah, acting erratically, I'm like, all right, something's happening. Do I need to take cover? Something's up. Yeah. Wow. Um, and then I've got one about a 22-pound rabbit.
SPEAKER_0122. Oh, I was thinking 220. Yes. Tell us more about the rabbit here. I want to hear it.
SPEAKER_00All right. This is also from The Guardian, your favorite. Okay. So I don't have the actual owner's name, but this happened in the United Kingdom, and the rabbit's name is Dory. So Dory's owner was slipping into a diabetic coma. And his wife hadn't noticed this, but his enormous Flemish giant rabbit, Dory, did. So Dory jumped onto his chest and began licking his face insistently enough that his wife realized something was seriously wrong and called the emergency services. He survived. Yeah. Bunny licks.
SPEAKER_01Fuck yeah. That's all I got from that one. I was like, I'd love to know what a bunny tongue tastes like, feels like. Okay. And then there's animals saving other animals.
SPEAKER_00I love that.
SPEAKER_02All right now.
SPEAKER_00Give us some of that. Um, all right, I'll I'll stop after this one. Okay. Um, so Moco the dolphin in New Zealand in 2008. Two pygmy sperm whales, a mother and a calf, repeatedly stranded themselves because they couldn't figure out how to navigate around a sandbar. Conservation officer Malcolm Smith spent about 90 minutes repeatedly pushing them back to the sea, but they kept coming back. He was reaching the point where euthanasia might become necessary. Then Moko, the dolphin, appeared. Witnesses heard vocalizations between the dolphin and the whales. Then Moko led them parallel to the beach, around the sandbar, made a right angle turn through the narrow channel, and escorted them into open ocean. They didn't return. The conservation, oh, I just got goosebumps. The conservation officer said he'd never seen anything like it and believed Moko had saved their lives. They were talking to each other.
SPEAKER_01Yo, yo, come back. Yo. I don't know why I'm thinking that she's southern. That dominant. Oh. Oh, I don't know. I got it. Makes you look like a goat, doesn't it? That's close. That's Australia. Makes you look like a no, no, I I know that it's so um I'm I'm trying to do flight of the concord. I was gonna say think flight of the concords. Um uh makes you look like a go goat, doesn't it? I don't know. But that was close. That was almost it.
SPEAKER_00They need to work on it. Echolocation. Just yeah. Yeah. Echolocation. That's what how they talk. Oh, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dolphins and whales, and they use echolocation.
SPEAKER_01I will say there is a new uh relatively new documentary. It's called Fathom, and it is about whales communication. It it's done well. It's just kind of like a day in the life in that world, and it kind of goes over like how they they I mean they record the different sounds, they have names for different sounds like the whoop and the um, I can't think of any of them right now, but it's interesting. And the the the scientists are females, yeah. They sit on a boat and wait and wait and wait for a pack of whale, a pack of whales, for a pod. I'm a scientist, obviously. Um Courtney's got a few degrees. I got so many degrees, uh-huh. Mostly 98 degrees. But um uh they wait and then when the whales show up, they drop a microphone into the water and they play um one of the like, you know, of all the they've documented all of the different noises that they make. And like it's unbelievable the like the amount of of music that they make, and that they all know across the world, they all have the same songs, which is powerful.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So they drop the mic into the water and they they let out one noise and then they see what the reactions are to see how they so it's really it's really interesting. Um, and it doesn't come to a final like they know, they speak, you know, but it's just fascinating to watch it's like the whale dictionary, yeah. Like to communicate somehow. I don't know if you've seen uh arrival once. Oh my god, I love that movie. Oh, I need to rewatch that then. It's it's one of I mean it is done really well. I really enjoy that movie. Um, but it's very similar because they record all these different sounds and then they use like it's just complicated over my uh I don't have enough degrees to understand, but um, that's what it made me think of because they've got these sound things um on her computer that are like, you know, with every sound, the it's just fascinating. So I highly recommend it. Fathom. Fathom. I'm gonna go check that out. Okay. And it's just it's done well. They don't use a lot of fucking music, which I love it when they don't. I love it when films don't encourage you and your feelings with music where they're like, this is sad. Here's this is sad. We'll remind you because it's sad music. But so yeah, you've got you've got some you got some documentaries to watch now. I sure do. I wouldn't watch The Bridge. It's pretty heavy duty, but it's interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not um yeah. I will not be watching that right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Let's stay with the animals and rescue and Fathom is just I like to put it on just to have it on in the background. I mean, who doesn't let them and then they do that? Click, click, click, click, click, click. I can't do it. Was that a whale? No, guys, it was me.
SPEAKER_00It was just Corey. I have a I have a theater degree. You go in for an audition and you're like, I can also be a whale.
SPEAKER_01I can also do whale noises. Well done. I tell you, this has been a treat. I needed this today. Uh it's a very cloudy, rainy day, but I am so grateful we jumped on to have some good chats about the animals.
SPEAKER_00I know. I yes, animals make my day. I'm so happy when I have critters in my yard. Yes. Except when they dig up my bulbs. Those little fuckers. Quit digging up her bulbs. I I just planted a bunch of bulbs last week, and then every go every day I go out there and there's like two that have been dug up, and I'm like, motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_01They're like, what are you you you brought us here, you feed us the nuts.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And you don't want us eating the snackies that you bury in the ground for us.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm like, I want them for next spring when they sprout. Yeah. Jerk. Anyhow. All right. Well, Courtney, thank you. It was so lovely, Emily.
SPEAKER_01It was. I love this. We gotta pop on for really good, fun stories.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I like doing some of these fun ones in between when we have guests. It's just, yeah, it's fun to kind of do some research on little things that come up, and it's like, I didn't know that. That wasn't the plan for that animal to save that person, or for yeah, Canada to be our number one listening country out there. Right.
SPEAKER_01I want to make bracelets that are WWJB D. What would Bintijua do?
SPEAKER_00We should get some merchandise going, and that can be one of them. I've got a list, I will put it together, I will throw it up, or actually, we should um I will get it together and we can read it on the next one. Um my god. Bible smoking. Sayings and stuff that we've had throughout our 35 episodes that we've done that we can take a vote and see what people want, and we can do totes or t-shirts or hats and make some merchandise. We can make it all too. Yeah, and Courtney's really good at that. So yeah. I love it. You've been wanting to do that for years. Yeah, you do. All right. So I'll put together I'll compile a list. Um, but oh my god, we can do it. It'll be fun. All right. Uh, to all of our viewers, thank you and listeners. Uh, thank you so much for tuning in. Do us a quick favor, please, and just subscribe to our channel if you have to rate and review. We love it. Um, five stars are always good. If you have any questions for us, you can always reach us through the social media or email us at that wasn't the plan pod at gmail.com. You can always uh reach us through our website at that wasn't the plan dot com as well. Um, yeah, and until we talk to you next time, thank you so much for tuning in and have a great day. Yes. Do it for Binti. Do it for Benty. All right, we'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye.