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That wasn't the plan. Well, Courtney Holland, it is so good to see your beautiful face in that adorable hairstyle.

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It's so good to see you, Miss Emily. And your adorable hairstyle, Curly East.

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Oh, you know, I just took a clip and did one of those. Wild. You know, I um I have been attempting to teach myself how to do like sh uh beachy waves with either the curling iron or the flat iron, and I can't master it because my hands don't quite understand what it should be doing. And then my hair gets burnt and then it's all crimp cream, crinkly. And it just is not pretty.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

And that that will throw me into a tailspin like temper tantrum. If I try to crook, if I am having struggles with my hair with a curling eye, I'll end up hitting myself with a brush. Like shit gets curly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

Yeah.

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And then my ears get my mind.

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It's this whole thing. So dangerous. I'm just a big fan of putting it up. Um, because that's really all I know how to do, and it looks fine. Well, I wanted to say thank you to everyone for tuning in to that wasn't the plan today. Thanks for joining. Well, this will be season two, not sure which episode, because this episode was not planned, because it came to my attention this week when I was speaking with an agent about a potential guest coming on. And he wanted to see like our I know he wanted to see our statistics and all of that. And so I was like, I do wonder like what all those look like because I haven't really looked at it much before. And I pulled up all of our listeners and where they are. And to my surprise, Courtney, all of our listeners, or our top country where people listen the most is in Canada, followed by Australia, and then a sad, sad third place, the United States. So I just was like, Canada, get out. I'm like, Courtney's Canadian. And I live just right down the road. I wish I could be a Canadian. Gosh. Well, if you marry me.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

I know.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

I am already married. Thruples are back in now, aren't they? Like, I don't know. I I don't need to be with you guys. I just need some citizenship status.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

You I wouldn't put you, I would not put you through the uh overstimulation that is the the the world that I married into. It's wonderful, it's an adventure, but it is. It'll get you. It'll get you right in the plums. Yeah. But uh, but Canada.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Canada. Well, okay, and here are the top cities where everyone's tuning in from Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, and then fifth place but not least, Edmonton. I love them all. Who knew? So I mean, like this little American, uh, this little United States podcast is reaching all over North America. Come on, Mexico. We see you. You can get in there too. Uh hola, I'm sure all the way across the Pacific, too, to Australia. So that's I mean, hello. Hello. I know. So we decided we decided today we are gonna do a tribute episode to Canada.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Oh, Canada.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

And I actually meant to learn. Oh, do you know it? No, I I kind of know the tune, but I don't. We should probably we should look it up and then you should sing it because you're a trained singer and I am not.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

And I will sing it like a queen.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

And people will too turn everything off if they hear me sing. One hondo.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

No, I'm gonna sing it. I meant to look it up and to like learn it and like just be like, oh, this. Um, but to I want to explain my Canadian-ness to the listeners of Canada. And I tried to look extra nice today because I want to be accepted into the Canada family. I was born in Newfoundland. My dad was military, so I'm the only kid in our family that was born out of the States. And um I knew that growing up, like I could never be president, which I was like, hmm. Um and But if you're born on a military base, is that different? I don't think so. I think it's still I can't be president of the United States. And um, when I turned 18, I was told I was gonna have to make a choice between Canada and America. And I imagined that, you know, as a as a young person, I really thought I was the center of the universe. So I was like, Canada must be on the edge of their seat trying to find out whether or not I'm gonna accept. And then life happened and I forgot all about it. And then while I was in Los Angeles, I had to go get my social security card. Um, and when I went there, the woman was like, All right, I see you're all you have got dual citizenship. And I was like, What's that? She was like, You're also a citizen of Canada. And I was like, Me? I just for the rest of the day it was like rom-com. I'm like, dual citizen. I can cross borders. So do you still have it? Oh yeah. Have I been to Canada since I was born there? No. Oh and is that horrifying? Yes.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

I've but my husband and I, when we're talking about our honeymoon, I want us to go rent a houseboat in Canada. There, I forget where I was looking, but um, and anytime my dad would go to Canada for work, he would come back with some sort of Canadian. I had a book called Um Comeers Till I Tells You. That was a sayings, Canadian sayings like Comme Ears Till I Tells you, Jeet Yet, um uh Eyes the By the Swall of the Fly and Eyes the Buy the Something. Um, but yeah, so and then we went and saw the movie Shipping News starring and Julia Moore. Um, that was placed in Newfoundland, and we went and saw it for a Christmas movie. Um and it really just talks about the uh history of incest that happened in Newfoundland. Um so huh. But uh anywho, I love being a Canadian. I I it's like the most interesting thing about me. The only and not the but I always like to lead with it. And I would love nothing more than to move to Canada and fully take on the Canadian everything because I love the people, I love the sports, I love I love the the freaking landscape, the mountains. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 7:10

So it's beautiful. I've been wanting to move up there and become a citizen, gosh, for close to 20 years now. Um, if there are any eligible bachelors looking for a male order bride who is three hours south of the border, you know where to reach us. You can find us on the socials. I am accepting suitors at this at this time.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Good God, and what a brilliant woman she is, ladies and gentlemen. Also, I know her past suitors, and there is, and she does not have many, there is a hot tip about um essentially you find Xana do when you reach her vagina. That's all I'll say. I don't want to give too much away. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

Anyway. Anyhow, do I have a list of wonderful things that you might not know about Canada? Oh gosh. Do you want me to just read it?

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Do you want to hear it all?

SPEAKER_03 8:15

Okay. I won't hear everything. All right. I've got some incredible scientific facts, just some people, some funny stuff. So animal stuff. You got animal stuff in there? I have a few animal things. Um, but yeah, yeah. Oh, and then I've got, yeah, I've got some strange phenomena too that I forgot to put down. All right. Here we go. Okay. Insulin was invented in Canada. Did you know that? Banting and best at the University of Toronto in 1921 to 1922. It probably have saved more lives than anything else. Wow. Like insulin. Everybody, well, not everybody, but so many people rely on that.

unknown 8:58

Right?

SPEAKER_03 8:59

100. Probably me eventually, a diabetes, right? Uh with all those jelly beans. Um, Hawaiian pizza was invented by Sam Panelopoulos in Chatham, Ontario, in 1962. So the world's most divisive pizza is Canada's fault. That's incredible. I love it. I do. Well, that's probably why they put the Canadian ham on there, right? Yeah. Well, and it sounds like that guy might have been Hawaiian. Was he? His last name sounds Greek to me. Panopolis, Panopolis.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

Definitely Greek, probably. Um, so I guess the pineapple makes it Hawaiian.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Do you guys think that's I guess the pineapple makes that Hawaiian? But yeah. Um, Trivial Pursuit was dreamed up by two Montrealers, Chris Hanley and Scott Abbott, reportedly over beers.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

That's I'm not good at are you good at that game?

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Um, I played it this past Christmas with um my brother had a foreign exchange student from Spain, and gosh, I think Martina was 13 or 15 years old, and she kicked every she kicked everyone's ass. Like she was like her strategy, this and that. And I guess I hadn't probably played it in over 10 years, and then I was like, Well, this is not my game.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

It's never been my game, but the way to play it, I'll tell you, Emily, this is the secret. Every time they ask a question, be like, uh, oh, uh, uh, and then someone says the answer, and you're like, that's what, oh my god, that's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

That's all I mean. No, no, no, no. Oh my gosh, I'm confusing it with Monopoly. Okay. I she kicked my ass at Monopoly, not trivial pursuit. Trivial pursuit, now I haven't played that in a long time. It depends on which version. You remember like the old version that we grew up on? Um, but I know they have a few newer versions. I'm not really good with like pop culture and sports, so I'd probably not be good at yeah. I'm not good at at least then I wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

I might be better now. Yeah. But we need to make one easy.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

Um yeah. Uh the pacemaker. Yeah. Oh, the pacemaker and iMacs are both Canadian inventions. IMAX. IMAX, apparently. Yeah. Wow. Um, but this is one of my favorites because I love to eat poutine uh from rural Quebec in the 1950s. Um it's, you know, French fries with the cheese curds and then the hot gravy on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was invented poutine in Quebec. Um and there are, I think there's a dispute amongst restaurants with there's a few of them who claim to have invented it. Um anyhow, yeah. A very, very polite Canadian fight. Oh, I'm sure. And then I've got something about politeness coming up too. Um maple taffy on snow. So basically what you do is you take hot maple syrup and then you pour it over clean snow and you allow it to thicken and then you roll it onto a stick. Um, it's a traditional Quebec sugar snack. Um it's like maple taffy. Yeah. Uh-huh. I need it. Yeah, because Canadians uh looked at snow and thought, you know, we should make this into a dessert. Yeah, might as well not get so much of it, right? Right. So maple syrup, as we all know, but then there was the great maple syrup heist. So Quebec makes the large majority of the world's supply of maple syrup. And yes, there's a strategic reserve which thieves robbed of roughly 18 million Canadian dollars in 2011-2012. Wow. So how they did they ever get caught? I don't know. I didn't Sorry, I don't know. No, I mean, I should have like fully researched some of this. I was just googling around and like, cool, cool. Yeah um, but then some of my favorites are like ketchup chips, the all-dress chips. Um, and then uh I've know of Tim Hortons, I've never eaten there, but it's like a fast food chain across Canada and supposedly like it's kind of a national treasure. They have a thing called the double double, which I assume is equivalent to like the in and out burger double double, but Canada right in. Let me know what the double double is. Yeah. If there's if there is one south of Vancouver that I can easily get over the border and go get one of these, tell me the address, please. I will drive up from Seattle. I will film it, I will eat it. I don't eat red meat, but I will do it. Um, just because it sounds pretty good, actually. Sounds phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Yeah. I gotta plan my trip out to Seattle and then we could both go. We should go and we should do like a Canadian tour.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

Yeah. Um This sounds amazing. Well, let's do it. Let's do it. Um, so like people and culture, as we all know, uh so many great comedians hail from Canada, like Mike Myers, Jim Carrey, Dan Aykroyd, John Candy, Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara, Martin Short, Rick Moranis, Leslie Nielsen, Rachel McAdams, Ryan Gosling, Rachel, Ryan Gosling, um, who's the other Ryan? Oh, Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds, um Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, yeah, Drake. I think Celine Dion, um Shania Twain, Grimes, um, and then this one I love. Terry Fox. Uh, he ran what is called the Marathon of Hope in 1980. He ran close to Yeah, he ran close to a marathon a day across Canada on one leg to fund cancer research before he died from it. Wow. I know. So that's Terry Fox. Um looked him up. Like that's a pretty cool thing. That's really cool. Right? Let's not forget Shits Creek as well.

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We've been watching it. It's been one of our go-tos when Allison Allison's been watching it, so the all of us will sit down with her and I could watch it all day.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

I all day. It's all I love putting it on in the background. And then like Anne of Green Gables, which is also fantastic. You look like you belong in Anne of Green Gables, right? No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Oh she's a kindred spirit. Yeah. That's as much as I got. Gilbert. That's really true.

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Um, and then onto some animals. The orcas of the Salish Sea. So these are the southern resident pods that swim in the Seattle waters here, and they, you know, we share the same sea as them, kind of up and down the east side of Vancouver Island, down here into the Seattle area and further south. But there's these beautiful pods of killer whales, the orcas. Um Wow. And then the polar bears of Churchill, Manitoba, um, which is self-declared the polar bear capital of the world, um where you can ride tundra buggies out to see them. Oh, I still thought you were gonna say ride and polar bear. I was like, that doesn't that doesn't sound right.

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But like it's groups, it'll be like, we don't think that's a good idea.

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They will let you approach them and that will be the last thing you ever do. Yeah, really, right? They're huge. I think you could probably also take these tundra buggies out to see like moose, tundra, um, Arctic fox, and yeah. Okay, so but this one, Courtney, comes back to your motherland. Um in Newfoundland, there's something called the screech-in ceremony where you kiss a cod like a fish to become an honorary Newfoundlander. Um George Street and St. John's, reputably the most bars per square foot in North America. So on George Street in St. John's and Newfoundland. St.

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John's Hospital. That's where I was burned. Oh, hey. Oh, hey.

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And one other really cool thing about Newfoundland, and you probably know this. Um, on 9-11, there were several flights that had to be diverted, and they couldn't, yeah, they couldn't go back. So they landed in Newfoundland, and these strangers took roughly 7,000 people into their homes and fed them and sheltered them for gosh, I think it was like a week or something before they could, you know, get back to the United States or get back to where they were going because flights all over the world were grounded. Um that just goes back to Canadian hospitality. What was that?

SPEAKER_02 17:50

I'm telling you, the musical Come From Away is based on that. And yeah, so come from away, they were people that came from away, which and it gives me goosebumps just talking about it because it's so cool. Like they, you know, were informed and all these planes, yada yada, and they were like, we will take them. We can make it work. And you know, they could have easily been like, not, yeah, absolutely not, you know, especially now in this, like, I don't know if they would allow allow, I wouldn't allow Americans to land on my island and come in into my hotels and my backup.

SPEAKER_03 18:22

It's a good thing flights weren't averted here to Seattle because Seattleites would have been like, oh fuck no, because there's something called the Seattle freeze. Where Courtney, I was explaining to some folks last week that I think I've become a more negative and depressed person since moving to Seattle because people are not friendly outwardly friendly here. It's not that they're not friendly, but if you approach them on the street or on a walk and you smile or say hello eight times out of 10, you're not gonna be reciprocated with a smile or a hello. It's just like there's this frozen bubble around people. They don't want to acknowledge your existence that you're there, and it's very cold. Um and that's unfortunate. It's really unfortunate. Um, because when I was down in Los Angeles over Thanksgiving and we were hiking, like Griffith Park, you'd just everyone you'd passed, you'd either smile, but most people you'd just say good morning, hello. And everyone was like, Good morning, hello, hello, hello. And I was like, I was like, oh my God, I forgot that people are friendly everywhere except Seattle. So Seattle, I'm sorry, but we need to break this freeze because it's bullshit. Let's try and be outwardly friendly to people because you know what? The world is a really difficult place to live in right now, especially in the United States. So we can make more of an effort to be friendlier to one another. What would a Canook do?

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What would a Canook do? They'd smile. They they would go farther than that. You know what I mean? But like here, yeah, I do the the hello. Oh. Yeah. Have you are your it? How is your air quality right now?

SPEAKER_03 20:00

Oh, it's delightful. Um we, I believe we are expecting some wildflowers, wildfires. Uh, but yesterday, oh my gosh, we've had such like a warm week. And then yesterday we had this crazy storm that came through, and it was thunder and lightning for, I don't know, gosh, around three hours and just torrential downpour. And then it and then by like two, one or two PM it kind of let up. But now it's bright blue skies, sunny, it's wow, it's gorgeous. And then yeah, we're supposed to be full summer. Why what's your air quality like?

SPEAKER_02 20:34

We ha are on an orange because we're taking in all of that smoke air from Canada, the Canadian wildfires, which is crazy. Because so it looks here the way it would look when we would have wildfires in Los Angeles, where it's like piercing bright, but the the the sky is yellow, it doesn't smell good. And it's funny because Allison, you know, they don't ever really get this kind of weather. And Allison was like, is the world okay? And I was like, Well, no, but no, that for some reason I felt like, but yeah, so the so my so right now I'm dog sitting for my sponsor. My sponsor is a little festival in Michigan, and apparently Michigan is just getting its butt kicked by this weather, by the smoke. So I'm surprised you're not getting, I mean, we it is weird out, and I have to mow, but I'm excited about it because I'm gonna listen to spooky music or some sort of like some radio head album that's gonna really take me into a dark space um while I mow.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Oh, nice. Um it I know, poor Canada. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. It must be it must be like central and eastern Canada because or like east of the Rockies, because we're not getting that here yet.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Well, we're in a valley, so I guess Oh, but okay it's crazy. Like we are all like, it can't be from Canada, the Canadian fires, and the only reason I knew about it was because one of My friends, and I was like, What's going on? And she was like, The fires. And so I was like, Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

Oh yeah, Canada. So there's a place called Iceberg Alley, um, where puffins and it's on the live and it's on the eastern edge of Canada. Uh, it stretches along the Labrador, Newfoundland's eastern coast. Um, so apparently it's gorgeous. Uh, the some of the viewing areas, if anyone wants to go there, uh, one place is called Twillingate, Fogo Island, Bona Vista, Cape Spear, and St. Anthony. Uh, depending on the season and luck, you can see ancient icebergs, whales, and large seabird colonies. Um and Cape Spear is Canada's most easterly point of land and has Newfoundland and Labrador's oldest surviving lighthouse. Wow. Which is pretty cool. That is so cool. Golly. So here's one that I absolutely love. You know, everyone knows that, or we make fun of the Canadians are so polite because they are. They're everyone that I've ever met from Canada is polite. They all seem very friendly. I mean, I know that's not the case everywhere. That's their so there is something called the Apology Act that was passed in Ontario in 2009. It's a law clarifying that saying sorry or sorry is not a legal admission of guilt because Canadians apologize. I love because Canadians apologize so reflexively, they needed a legal cover for it.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

That is wonderful. I know.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

That looks so good.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Oh my god. And um I will I will mention that when I was um young and my parents were explaining to me, you were born in Canada at school, they were like, we need you need to pick a state and write a report on it. I was like, Canada, and everyone was like, that's not a state. And I was like, okay. And then I was like, how is it in a state? And they're like, okay, pick a state. And I'm like, Canada. And they're like, it's not a state. And I I remember being really confused by it and just thinking, I'll try again a little later. Um, but my dad, when he I had a Canadian flag on my wall as a teenager, like I was like, Canadian. Of course. I had a lot of pride in it. Yeah. And I really, and everything I read about Canada and especially Newfoundland, like it just, I was like, that's where my my heart is. I left my heart. When you're going to Newfoundland. Yeah. I left my heart in Newfoundland.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Oh, oh, yeah. It sounds like you didn't. You need to go up there. Actually, we need to go up there together so that I can kiss that cod and then become like an honorary Newfoundlander.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Oh, God, I want to do all the honorary things. Make it up. Like, tell us everything I need to do. If there are any Newfoundlanders listening to this, talk to me.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

I want to know. I want to know more about Canada. Like, what other fun facts are there about? I've got a few more, but um, yeah, Canada is such a huge country, like landmass-wise. Although I think like population-wise, it's it's like roughly it's not even the same size population as like California. So not many people, just lots of land, bears, so much beautiful, land and icebergs. And then um, if you didn't know, you're about to find out that lacrosse is the national summer sport and hockey is the national winter sport. Make sure um, and they both have indigenous origins. Oh, wow. Um, so here's some unhinged stuff. There's something called the sour toe cocktail. In Dawson City in the Yukon, which is way up north, you can join a club by drinking a shot with a real mummifl, mummified human toe in it. Um, you can drink it fast or slow, but your lips must touch the toe. Apparently, thousands have done it. Somebody once swallowed the toe and they find him and needed to find a new toe.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

I mean, I would do that, but they would have to do it not in alcohol. You would do it though? Absolutely. Absolutely. I couldn't do it. I'll do anything. I mean, not anything.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

Yeah, I couldn't do that. But I would I would go do this. In the Narcis snake dens in Manitoba, every spring, yeah, tens of thousands of red-sided garter snakes emerge at once. Oh, yeah, it's the largest concentration of snakes on earth. It's like a writhing snake orgy visible from a viewing platform. And you can go peak May. So we just missed it, but we could go next year. And they're garter snakes, they're good guys. Yeah, they are. I like little garter snakes. Yeah. Um, and did you know that Alberta is legally rat free? The province has run an actual rat control prob uh program since 1950. And genuinely keeps itself free of wild rats. There is a government rat patrol, a Canadian province declared war on the rodent and won. I mean, yay, but also here's another newfie for you. And you probably know this. Newfoundland is 30 minutes off from everywhere else. It's the time zone is a half hour offset. So the universal is like 3:30. Um so like what time is it here? It's like 1042 in the morning. So it would be what, I don't know, like you're on East Coast, they were let's just say one or two fifteen.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Did you know that?

SPEAKER_02 27:59

I didn't.

SPEAKER_03 28:00

Yeah. Um, so there's something called the Ogopogo, which is Canada's Loch Ness monster. Oh yeah, it's a lake monster in Okanagan Lake in British Columbia with sightings going back to indigenous legends. Um there's a statue of it in Kelowna. Kelowna, British Columbia. I'm mispronouncing a lot of this. I apologize. Please write in and tell me how to pronounce things. She's sorry. She's drunk. Yeah, that's right. At 11 a.m. You know. Um, and this one I love because I have read so much about these guys and I've seen, you know, photographs. But there's the commode, the commode, no, the curmode slash spirit bear, which is a real subspecies of black bear that is born white, not albino, but just white. Um they're found, yeah, they're found only in British Columbia's Great Bear Rainforest.

SPEAKER_04 28:58

Great bear rainforest.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

I know.

SPEAKER_04 29:01

Um that's really cool.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

So, and then there's Mac the Moose in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, a giant moose statue statue that briefly lost its quote unquote world's tallest moose, titled to no to a north to a Norwegian moose, sparking an international moose feud sparking. Sparking international moose moose feud that made the news until Matt got new antlers to reclaim the crown.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Nothing like a moose feud. Bring up the moose feud. That's a hard moose feud, moose feud, moose feud.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

I know I couldn't got tongue-tripped on that one. Moose feud. Yeah. So that's amazing. Canadians loved love bagged milk. In Ontario and Eastward, milk comes in bags that you snip open and prop in a pitcher that you can just like drink. Apparently. I'm not quite sure. I need to see photos of this.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

In high school, we had milk in pouches. You didn't have that? They were like, 'board things, but not like a caprice.' Yeah, these were not even caprice sun, it was a clear plastic, like square, it almost looked like a bean bag. And you top it with a straw.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Isn't that just that might be the same thing as this bag milk that they're talking about?

SPEAKER_02 30:25

It was, yeah, chocolate milk, and but it was bagged milk. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

It's just gross. So craft dinner is basically a food group up there. Canadians eat more boxed mac and cheese per capita than anyone on earth. They're losing me. I can't I don't like mac and cheese.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Oh, I love it. I could easily love it. I'll eat it. I'll eat anything, but um, I don't love it.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

Uh did you know their national animal is a rodent? A beaver. To be precise. That was the noises that those fuckers make. I know, they're awesome. They were nearly hunted to extinction so that Europeans could make hats from them. So Canada is essentially founded on a hat material business and murder of thousands, millions of innocent little rodents that actually, folks, really do help ecosystems when they bring beavers back into some of these areas, the ecosystem around it starts flourishing. Animals come back, the rivers become healthy again. So beavers leave their fur on them. We don't need that. Let them do their thing, reintroduce beavers wherever you can, reintroduce salmon wherever you can. We need to stop, we need to stop being humans and be part of this plant, beautiful planet that we live on and know that we all coexist together. So Canada actually uh built, they they do build robotic arms that have served aboard NASA's space shuttles and the International Space Station, helping deploy satellites, move equipment, and support construction and maintenance. It's called Canada Armed Technology. It's continuing into the next generation. So that's pretty cool. They contribute a lot for that. Um I was listening. And then I'm gonna totally mispronounce this, but I'm gonna try. It's an Inuit name. Um Quam Quamajwick at the Winnipeg Art Gallery holds close to 14,000 works of Inuit art, including carvings, prints, drawings, textiles, and new media. Its visible vault design lets visitors see vast portion of the collection rather than hiding most of it in storage. So, yeah, it's Canada's not just tundra or wildlife or scenery. They it's home to living indigenous cultures, languages, and artists whose work has influenced global art and design. So we can't forget about all the indigenous peoples here in the Americas and worldwide, um, that you know, we tend to do. Um so I've got some other really weird ones. Give me your weirdest. Newfoundland's old hag. The old hag is a long-standing Newfoundland tradition surrounding the terrifying experience of waking up unable to move, often with the sensation that a figure is sitting on your chest or standing beside the bed. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

I've had that.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

I've had that.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

Then you've got an old hag from Newfoundland. That's my nickname in high school. Here comes the old Newfoundland hag. Hi, you guys. Hey, everybody. Do you want to look at my hairy back?

SPEAKER_03 33:46

So Newfoundland, the folklore there developed an entire vocabulary and catalog of curses around it. So saying your name backwards, placing a Bible under your pillow, arranging shoes or stockings and a cross, and some considerably less advisable solutions involving boards and nails. Uh, but basically uh we now know that this experiences sleep paralysis, bugs. Night terror, yeah. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

Here, let me ask you this, Emily. Can you say your name? Can you say your name backwards? I'd like Emily Yentro Denala. Yen troch denala. I love that. That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 34:27

I don't Yentro. Y L I Wylamile. Wylamile.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

Wylamil M. What is it? Wylame. So Yylame Wylam. Wylame because Emily. Emily Wylame. Wylame. Wylame, so. Oh, your name's right here. Ethua Wylame. These are actually beautiful names. Totally. You and I only know how to say mine is because my friend back in college had one of the he downloaded like one of the first versions of Garage Band or whatever. And you could play your shit backwards. So we started to try and talk backwards. So then we tried to learn our names backwards. And Yentrok Danala. And it sounded like it's like Courtney Holland. Like it sounds very weird, but it's cool.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

Oh nice. It's cool, yeah. That's cool. That's cool. All right. So Sasquatch Country, Harrison Hot Springs. So the Harrison River Valley in British Columbia has one of Canada's strongest Sasquatch traditions. The name is generally connected to Sasquate and Sasales.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_03 36:02

Sorry. I'm useless today.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

Fuck.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

A word often translated as quote unquote Harry Man. And the figure has a deeper place in local, local indigenous oral traditions than the cartoonish roadside Bigfoot version suggests. So local lore even claims sasquatches gather for reunions near Harrison Lake.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

That's really interesting because that actually was my high school nickname, which was Harry Man. Oh, here comes old Harry Man. The old hag, Harry Man? The old hag, the old hairiest man hag. Oh god. Poor lady.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

Oh, okay. One more, and then I will pass the microphone to. What do you do? Um God, another name I'm having trouble with. Uh Cadborosaurus. Cadborosaurus, or quote unquote caddy. British Columbia has its own alleged sea serpent. Caddy. Well, wait, caddy. I need to put my fucking glasses on.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

We're gonna put that cliff is gonna be on the internet. A woman has a steroque on a podcast. There is money because it's added to it.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

It looks like an L because I don't have my glasses on. Cadborosaurus. Cadborosaurus, affectionately called Caddy, named after Cadbororo Bay near Victoria. Uh witness descriptions have very have varied wildly, but a classic caddy supposedly has a long serpentine body, humps, and flippers, and a horse or camel-like head. Various alleged carcasses have eventually been identified as sharks, whales, or other decomposing marine animals. But that has not discouraged caddy. Um I like all their um spooky stuff. Yeah, it's kind of fun. I mean, I would love to know more about Canada since I will eventually be moving there. Um me too. I can't wait. I can't wait. Yeah, I yeah, maybe this time next year I'll be living there.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Well, I've you know, I there was a period of time when I was in my 12 years of singleness and confused about where I was in my life. I was looking up rentable apartments in Newfoundland. I was like, I'll just go and get a waitress job.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Yeah, fuck it. You can do that. I I've done the same thing, you know, up in Vancouver. I it's not easy for Americans to move up there. You can. Um, I've looked into it like you can go for three months. If you own a place up there, you can go for six months, but then you've got to come back and every like every you're only allowed to be up there, I think, for six months.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Not me, bitch. Not you. You are lucky, lucky, lucky. Um I'm so lucky. And I for you know, life just happens and I forget all about it, and I'm like, this is insane. That I haven't invested it, but I'm always like, yeah, I'd really that well that's where we we will be taking our um. Yeah. Nice. Whenever we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 39:09

So a houseboat on a lake. That how for how long? Well um maybe a week.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

A week?

SPEAKER_02 39:20

Are you gonna try for another summer? No. Um maybe next summer. But I mean it's just it's just there's just such constant I know. You know, and I know it won't come, but as the kids get older, they become a little bit more autonomous. So um we rented a houseboat here, and it's just like a bare bones houseboat. I'm telling you, Emily, it has slide, oh my god, like it has a rooftop, and it was like 800 bucks for the weekend, which is not bad.

SPEAKER_04 39:47

Oh, that's not bad at all.

SPEAKER_02 39:49

And it was like, yeah. The kid well, Jonathan rented it for the kids, and he was like, We'll all stay on it. And I was like, We will all do no such thing. There is one bathroom, you can go straight to hell. No, sir. So I was like, You stay, absolutely. I am not staying. Plus, they're they're drinking, they're partying, which is good, good on them. Not my I won't be in bed by 9 p.m. Right? I know. I'm the same way. Last night I was thinking, God bless the women back in the 1800s when they would burn women at the stake because they thought they were witches, because they were no longer smiling at everybody when they passed them like they well, okay. But uh I've got something for you real quick. Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

Yeah. Birthday present. Oh, honey, it was How was your birthday? I missed it. Oh, it was good. It was good. Um, we made a whole weekend of it. Um did you? Well, because it, you know, it falls over the holiday weekend there on the Independence Day, 4th of July. So that's right, because you spent your birthday with us and in was that your 30th birthday when we were in Northern Virginia?

SPEAKER_02 41:04

Lake Anna?

SPEAKER_03 41:05

No. No, it was before that because I was in California for my 30th. It was probably it was probably my 27th or something. So, you know, like five years. Yeah. Um, so my friend Becky, who you may have met, got me this beautiful cup and saucer.

SPEAKER_04 41:25

Oh my god. But on the inside, hopefully you can read that.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

Did that smell like almonds? Does that mean you're having a stroke?

SPEAKER_03 41:38

It no, it it reads, did that smell like almonds? Because you know, you put your tea in there, and then by by the time you you're done with it, hopefully, like you serve this to your husband in the 1800s and he drinks it because cyanide with the wives' most powerful poison of the day smell like almonds. And that was one way that women would kill their husbands was to give them cyanide, either high doses or low doses low enough where over time it would build up and eventually kill them. But there are so many great stories, and we should do an episode about like phenomenal. I would love to.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

That would be a great let's do it. I will do the research. I want to know all of the things about all right.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

That's on you next time. We'll schedule it. We'll do fun poisons. And I've got this really awesome book. Um uh that it's called Wicked Plants. Look, it's right here. Oh and yeah, uh, but basically, um, it's all about plants and weeds and stuff that are very harmful if they won't kill you. Uh, it's fantastic. This is one of my favorite reads.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Interesting. Yeah, very, very interesting. Yeah. Wow. So it's fun. Um I'll never drink tea at your house.

SPEAKER_03 42:58

I mean, some of these are very difficult to find. And I've I did a lot of research because I used to have a nightshade in my garden, and then I took like some bushes out and put up a retaining wall, and unfortunately, the nightshade was lost. Um, and I didn't realize when I first moved in that that was nightshade growing out there. And I think nightshade is the same, or in this it might be the same as Belladonna or different category, but they're like little black berries and they are poisonous. Um you can die from eating too much or maybe just a little. I'm not exactly sure. But it started fascinating me to grow like a witch's garden full of that sort of stuff. But it is difficult to find some of these plants because they're not legal. So you're like growing and cultivating them is one thing. You go to jail because you're trying to a witch garden.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

I'm like, Emily, I feel I feel like you had made a misstep. That was illegitimate. Exhaust her mind.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

It's a witch garden. It's not to really hurt her. I did used to have uh carnivorous plants though for years on the front porch. Yeah, I had a couple uh fly snappers and then the other like tubular ones that were really fun. And you know, I'd watch them, I'd watch them get insects or I'd bring them insects, and it was fucking they're really cool.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

I thought you I watch them in sex, like while they're having sex. I'm like, Emily, this plant, this plant era you're having is bizarre. What else am I gonna do? How interesting, how bizarre.

SPEAKER_03 44:35

Yeah. Well, um, I just wanted to say thanks once again for Canada for supporting us. We actually please everyone who's listening, write in, tell us where you're from. Um, I hope this episode was fun, Kriff Canadians and everyone else across the globe because now we're yeah, we have a global podcast. I thought we were just getting a reach here in the United States, but apparently uh the United States folks really don't give a shit about us. It's Canada and Australia. So, next one, all you aussies out there, tell me where you're from, and we'll do an Aussie episode too, just to say hey.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

Spread the word. Do all about the animals. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

Yeah. And yeah. So that would be fun. We can just start educating people about random stuff because it's never the plan to totally like educating. Yeah. Um, we've got a great guest come well, yeah. We've got a great guest coming up here shortly. Uh, we're by the time this is released, you will have all heard King of Philips' wonderful episode. Don't forget to tune into Shark Week. Her episode is on Thursday, the 30th of Yeah. Yeah, that's my Courtney's birthday. Um, so wish Courtney a happy birthday. But yes, please write in. You can email us at that wasn't the planpod at gmail.com. You can also reach out to us on all the social medias. Just search around for that wasn't the plan podcast. You could also go to our website and reach us that way. Um, but we really appreciate you listening to us. Please tell everyone you know about our little podcast. We're trying to, we're trying to do a good thing here in the world and share some amazing stories and keep it fun and kind and vulnerable and real. Like we're real people, we're not celebrities. We don't really have celebrities on, which is yeah, I hope resonates with people because there's a lot of podcasts with celebrities, and I'm not saying that's wrong. It's fantastic to hear these stories, but we're everyday folk here.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

Keep it local or it local-ish. Um lordy. I'm Canadian. I'm not. Soon to be. Soon to be. We're gonna find you a Canadian attribute. Kind, handsome, funny.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

I need funny. I need funny. Uh, I feel like my sense of humor is lost on a lot of folks. Uh not you.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

Well, yeah, no, not me. Never mind. Oh god. But I'll tell you, you get into a house full of teenagers and suddenly like they don't think I'm funny at all. And I'm like, bitches, you're fucking stupid and boring. That's why. They don't take that well, but whatever. They don't take that well. I'm Canadian. You can't fucking do anything about it. Sorry. Sorry, what are you talking about? Come here still, I tell ya. Did you eat yet? D G yet yet.

SPEAKER_03 47:32

Oh, that's so sweet.

SPEAKER_01 47:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

Well, until next time, Courtney. Love seeing your face.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

Always a pleasure, my dear. Love you so much.

SPEAKER_03 47:40

All right, everyone, thank you so much. Thank you. We will talk to you again soon. Canada, we love it. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Bye, Canada. Come from away. We come from away.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

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