SPEAKER_01 0:04

That wasn't the plan. Hi, Emily. Hi, Courtney Holland. How are you? I'm well. How are you, my dear? I'm doing good, doing good. Oh you look good. Oh, thanks, you know. This is what it looks like when you work out and you don't shower or do anything before you start recording. So you don't need to, because you're you know, I feel like uh most people out there can relate that we do what we can do in the uh short amount of time that we've got stuff when things really matter. Like working out for me is one of my top priorities every day. It just makes me feel better. And um I do it like five, six days a week. And if I don't like move, if I don't move my body, I I feel shitty.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

It's true.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Yeah, so well, I wanted to say happy 25th episode.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Happy 25th to you. This is nuts, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

And thank you for all of our listeners for tuning into that wasn't the plan for 25 frickin' episodes. Like, who knew? Yeah, not me.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Um I think you did.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

You are on to something. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. Um word up. It's called stress and anxiety. Amen, sister. That will fuel you till the cows come home. It's true. It's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

My God, I was born with high anxiety. Bless you. And I I think I was too, but I think yours is different from mine. Yours makes you productive, and mine makes me take naps.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Oh, God. If I could nap, that would be the most beautiful thing in the world. Like, God, I'm so good at it. I'm very good. I'll beat you.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

I'll teach you what my voice is. Please do. Please do. It started with recovery, honestly. Recovery is where I was like, I forgave myself for everything that I had done up until that point. And then I was like, then I can just lay my head down and be like, don't need to replay that because I already worked through it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

So how I think we need to do an episode on what you've learned on how to forgive yourself. Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Because I I could use some lessons there. I think a lot of people could. Um, it's hard to do that. Absolutely. And I could still learn. Yeah. Well, it's hard not to judge everything that you do in your life and you know, the things that wake you up at 3 a.m. and you're like, fuck, I said that. I did that. That was real. Oh, son of a bitch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Believe me.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

I I can come up with a better retort right now, but the moment has passed.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Ah.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Oh, there it is. Um, well, also I wanted to mention that this is our season one finale. So we're gonna keep it short and we're gonna keep you on a cliffhanger.

unknown 2:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

I'm worried I might be pregnant. What? Yeah. Cliffhanger. Yeah. But ladies and gentlemen, I have done the work and sat with it and thought about what do would I want for me? And I've made my decision and I feel very good about it. All right. Yeah. Good. You I am 46 years old, and it would not it it would not behoove me to put my mental health and my physical health in front of carrying a child full term. So that's where I'm at with that. But I feel great about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Like good for you. Hey, man, you've got free will to make that choice, and it is your choice to make. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

And I truly um, I don't know that I am. I think also, you know, the symptoms of perimenopause, PMS, and pregnancy are all the same. All the fucking same. And perimenopause is like, we'll dip we'll we'll drizzle a little bit of that and then we'll throw that in to make her. So I feel like my perimenopause bitches were like, should we like hit her hard with a three-month period or should we fuck with her? And I think this month they're like, let's fuck with her. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

No, I uh travel with like 10 tampons on me at all time because hey, right, every year and a half my body's like, guess what?

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Yeah. It's so true. Like, I don't just have a ha, we're here. I have whispers that it's coming from for weeks, and then nothing's so hard. Yeah, and then nothing. Or that's where I'm at right now, and I'm just like, or it's like, and then it comes and it's like, I hope you're wearing, you know, a futon diaper. So hope you don't plan to wear pants for the next couple of days. So I always wear my overalls. My favorite, I've got multiple overalls, but my loosest ones, and I can wear my my bikers that have the pad built in, which I highly recommend, ladies. They're they're from Hanes, they're black. You buy them on Amazon, you get a pack of three, and they look cute. Honestly, I would wear them days that I'm not on it because they're to bed, because they're just like cute little biker shorts. Yeah. So cute. So yeah, so there is a cliffhanger. So stay tuned, folks. Fuck, Courtney, yeah, you'll have to keep me updated with that. And it's just cool. Like I talked to my my sister and I had a really we had a great hangout sesh yesterday, and we don't ever get to hang out. And she is a that wasn't my planner, and she listens to all of our episodes, and she told me that she just loves, uh, she just loves because she feels like she's hanging out with us. And yeah, and then she only was able to watch the first half of Jonathan's, and so she went and told my brother-in-law later, she was like, it's weird because she's like not acknowledging him as that she knows him. And Emily, and she's like, maybe Emily doesn't either doesn't know either. And I was like, We're actresses, we are phenomenal actresses professional. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Well, I fake at every moment of my life, so that Amen. Amen. Oh, that's so sweet. Um well, speaking of like favorite episodes, I just thought we could do like a quick recap on some of ours from the past season before we take a hiatus and come back in a month for season two.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

My favorite, so I have a a couple, but the first one that pops into my mind is um Lindsay talking about uh the lady that was standing behind her with like six, seven jars of marinara, and then taps her on the shoulder and asks her if she can get in front of her, and that Lindsay just turns and blinks at her and then turns back around. Like I'm like queen because what she wanted to do was like I mean, it just that's powerful. I I think about that all the time. And also, um, our uh the last gentleman uh forgive me Richard Alt. Yeah, the most interesting man. The most interesting man. Him and Deanny are neck and neck. Oh god, for sure. Yeah, they need to meet and be like they really do, right? Each other with their stories. Oh, yeah. Well, um, but I love that his grandmother slapped him for tipping a cow.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Yeah. Plus that woman. So good. Yeah. That's funny. Uh-huh. How about you? You know, I I have to say it because I'm you Holland children have some of the best stories. Like, honestly, your back hair story always stands out for me. One of my favorites. That's like my best. That's my best board. Yeah, I mean, that was on Sarah Beth's Last Virgin uh episode. And oh God. Any interaction with Sarah Beth on this is my favorite. Tune into those episodes. We should we need to have her on more for low, delightful, like a third host. Um the problem is she has like a real job. So whenever we record during the weekday, it's hard for her to get on. But Sarah Beth, if you're listening to this, we want more of you.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

We love you. I love you so much.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Um, and her story is just fucking hysterical too. But a Matt's episode, which, you know, I was looking at some of our stats, and folks, you need to go back and listen to mom. If I'm in a wheelchair, I want to play murder ball because that shit is gold. That episode is so good. But it's talking about like the flagpole coming up. Yeah. The last direction is what we should have called the episode.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

That's right. Well, the trouble is my mother was hot. She was like, Okay, you need to re-record it because you need to tell how he said to me when he first saw me, Mom, if I'm in a wheelchair, I want to play murder ball. And my heart was just like, Oh, thank goodness he's gonna be okay. Um, she doesn't have a southern accent like that, but um, she was she was riding me hard about that. She kept texting me in the middle of the night, was like, hey, did you talk to Emily about re-recording? I was like, Mom, I don't think that's how we'd roll. I was like, but if it's that important to you, like, you know, we'll put it we'll make it the name of the show.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

We can have him come on and tell the story. Like that would just be fun.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

That was the story he told. Like that was it. Yeah. I mean sometimes, yeah. Maybe every year we'll have him retell the story and it'll change.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Yeah. Hey, listeners, put it to a vote. Email us and let me know if you want to hear Matt's full story. Yeah. If you want to hear more, because there's so much more. There's so much more.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

God bless him. Yeah. On New Year's Eve, he couldn't drink, so we have pictures of him in his neck brace putting neck brace, like then he'd choose people to put a neck brace on and make them like pound a beer because he couldn't drink. And he looks and they and that and he even wrote the sign that says, Hi, I'm a douchebag, and I've been neck braced. And you know, bless his little heart, couldn't party with uh all of us, like, and we were all drinking our troubles away, which is kind of you do at Christmas for sure, for sure. Oi, oi, oi. So yeah. Oh god. Oh my god, Hillary. I wasn't here for it, but her yeah what is that tapping?

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Click ity, click click click, clickity, click, click, click. Hillary and I had so many tech issues, it took us like 40 minutes to get going because we were like, what is that clicking noise? And turns out to be our hoops.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

The bigger, the beta, the big uh, the better. Right. That's so funny. Um I would have loved to have been there for that one. Um, gosh. Oh, oh, yeah. Um Melissa. Melissa. I mean, her phenomenal story and her description of what it's like to be swimming in in freezing water and the hypothermia and all of that, but I still really love how she became vulnerable for us and told us about her cat condo, cat cat condo addiction. I just was so like so good. You're real, you are real, real girl. Like she's like, I have nine here, my parents have 17. Like, I was like, holy shit. She's like, I couldn't stop. And man, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

I get it. And Carrie Edwards, who won the Powerball and donated every single cent plus more because she had to pay taxes on that. And then she donated out of her own pocket.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

She's so cool, man.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Like, I mean, we've had some inspirational people on, and I cannot wait for the few uh few more that we have lined up already. Um my gosh, it's so exciting. It's so exciting, and I know there's so many other stories out there. So, again, folks, if you have a story you want to share, you're welcome to be a guest, or you can just write in your story and we will share that. And we'll read it. Yeah, we'll read it. Um like reverse moth. Exactly. You don't have to share it. We can share it for you, and we can even keep it anonymous if you want to do that. Which is fun too.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Like I love anonymousness. I know. Oh, um, and I don't I hate to say things too soon, so I'm knocking on wood when I'm doing it. But um, so I went to the dentist, had it fixed, thought it was fixed permanently. It fell out the next day. And I cried for a week, couldn't get out of bed, sort of, you know, just how that goes. And then um I went to the dentist again this past week, the same dentist, and he was like, all right. And he just like got to work, just did, I don't even know what he's doing anymore. I don't care. I don't care. He's just in there, and then he's like, voila. He made me a new tooth. He literally built me a new tooth, so it's in there with the other teeth, like holding on for deer, like I ain't going nowhere. So good. Well, here's hoping they all know hang on. I'm so I was eating eggs with sh uh onions in it, and I put an onion in my mouth and it was really fresh, and I was like, my tooth just fell out. My tooth just fell out, and it wasn't my tooth, so but I'm still, you know, it's only been two days. Okay. Don't eat corn. Three days. It hasn't it's been three days. It was on Tuesday. Yes. Tuesday. So it's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Three days. Okay, look at that math. Do you see that fast math? You're real good, corn. So yeah. Oh gosh. But if that's I mean, I might in reflection when we when I get further out from it, I'm telling you, that was one of the hardest things I've fucking ever gone through. And I've gone through some shit. Your teeth stuff. This most recent one. Like really this tooth flying out of my mouth and having a. Oh, that's in an episode, folks. Oh, I know, yeah. And I am open about it. I'm open and honest. Like, did damage to my mouth, you know, yada yada yada. Um, but having to re glue it over and over and over and over again, and being around teenagers that are like ladies, it I mean, ladies and gentlemen, that was a challenging that was a that was I think I went through some growth during that. Oh, I cried in my car a lot.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

You know, there's lessons and everything. I swear, like cancer was the same way. It's like, yeah, I learned so much. I would imagine so. And folks, if you really want to see Courtney's tooth fly out of her mouth, tune into the Lindsay Brockman grief episode. It's around the 45 minute to the hour mark. Um, it just shoots on out of her mouth. It's a beautiful thing. You can go to YouTube or Spotify to watch that.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

There's been so many, and that's happened in my life, I would say about seven or eight times in my life. Because for various reasons. So, um, but that was I think it was also the universe was like, we need to laugh because her her uh episode is so beautiful and so unimaginably painful, you know, the her experience, strength and hope, about her her life. And um, so I think it just it helped. I mean, I I am such a befuddled num nut when it comes to like being eloquent. So my mouth was like, my tooth was like, hold my beer. Yeah. We'll be eloquent as fuck. Shake this shit out.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

It's time to pause and reflect for a moment.

unknown 15:29

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Gather your words. But yeah, there's just been so many wonderful and have we am I correct when I say we've only had two dudes on? Yeah. We've had three dudes on. Wait, wait, wait, don't tell me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Mm-hmm. I've completely blanked. Matt Holland, Richard, and Jonathan. Oh. Oh, my husband. That's right. I've got a lot of. One of them is uh tucking it and we don't know. That's three dudes.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

No, I completely forgot about Jonathan. He's not a man. He's my sweet little purse carrier. He's my my my adorable bedmaker. What a guy. What a guy. Such a guy.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Such a fun experience, Emily.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Thank you so much. This has been so much fun. I can't wait to start in on season two.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Yeah. Yeah. But like work smarter and wiser, and my teeth might stay in my mouth. They're gonna stay in. Just stay away from corn this summer. I'm literally just eating like soups. They even made it a little shorter, so I couldn't. What I've been doing is clenching it anyway. I can have you thought about a mouth guard. Yes. Um, yes. I've definitely thought about it. You can buy them on in the grocery store.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

I have one.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

Oh, well, gets in the way of eating jelly beans at night. Um, but I do think I hear myself and I'm like, Corney.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

Let me ask you this real quick. Okay. Eating jelly beans at night. So you get into bed and you start eating your jelly beans. Is it there at some point when you like put them aside and turn off the light? They're aside already. They're in my drawer. So I just like slip it open, reach in, grab a few. So like in the middle of the night, you'll roll over and slip a few in your mouth and go back to the room.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Sometimes. It's a and it is a there is a there is a a club of us creatures who eat in the middle of the night. I've heard some celebrity talk about he had a girlfriend who would just wake in the middle of night and eat a handful of MMs. And I'm like, yeah, I've been there. And it's it's like, I mean, maybe we just don't have self-control. Maybe we're trolls. You know, I don't know. That's fun. I mean, you do you. Yeah, but I have so many teeth issues. Like, I'm like, why is this happening to me? I like to eat glass at night. You know, so I realized how ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Oh, wait, you were because when you came out here to babysit me during cancer, you were into sour gummy bears at the time, I think. Right. So expecting that.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

And that was a good it only changed, it's changed. It was gobstoppers when I was brand new sober. Brand new sober gobstoppers. Then I trans uh I turned and and it became sour gummy bears, and that was what it was the longest period of time. And then I didn't like how the sugar would be, you know, it's sour, it'd be a little sugar. So I I can't remember what in God's name put me on the jelly beans, but it was juicy pear, and then I just went straight to the tri uh the tropical, and that's where I reside now. All right. I believe it's where I will retire. Okay. Cool. Sounds good.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

I like those um ribbons, the watermelon sour ribbons. Do you know what I'm talking about? I do. Those are so good. But my it like destroys all the enamel and everything else that's good in my mouth, so I have to limit it to like once a year.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

And then I like it.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

Other than the the jelly beans, I eat really healthy. Like I'm a very I love spinach and I love veggies. Like so Hey, we've all got our things. Trust me. We do, and I'm good at other things sometimes. But um I'm like, I'm not a complaint. No one's judging you, Courtney. I'm not a creature from the deep sea. Well, I am, but um God. But yeah. Oh, thanks for listening and hearing me out on all of the weird shit I decide to overshare with the world.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Well, yeah, stockpile that shit, because we'll be back on, I believe, July 23rd is when we launch season two. So we're giving everybody a little summer break. Go do what you want to do this summer wherever you're at or winter wherever you're at in the world. I am headed in five hours to the land of winter down under.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Oh my god. It's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

And you were in England, right? I was just in England a week ago. It was like winter. It was downpour. We were at this farming event, um, mud up to your ears every day.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Ooh, did you have the tall like boots?

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yep, bought the big boots. I'm bringing those to Australia today.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Oh, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

I know. So it was like come back last Saturday, work this week, and try and get back on, you know, West Coast US time before I have to jump on like a 26-hour flight today to Melbourne, um, where it is winter in Australia at the moment. So I'm going from winter in the UK, June, to summer here in Seattle, where it's been like 88 degrees and then winter again with three time zones. And yeah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be pretty tired when I get back next week. You are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Maybe you'll learn how to nap.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

I just need some Xanax to calm this anxiety. Get it, girl. Yeah, doctors won't prescribe that anymore. Oh, really? They don't? Uh-uh. It's a like a schedule one, a class one. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, I got it when I was going through cancer because obviously every day was just like, ah, I'm gonna die. Um but then after that, they were like, You can't be on this anymore. It does bad things to your brain.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

And I'm like, give it to me.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Yeah, yeah, and it did horrip horrific things to my brain. So yeah, it's not good to do that. It's highly addictive, it's not good. Yeah. But every now and then, like slipping one of those on an airplane, that's why not. Why can't I do that?

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Yeah, you can, you lucky bitch. I can't though. I can't get those drugs. You cannot. I think but Adavan, I think, is something they will give that to when I was in detox, I got Atavan. They can give it. So I think that's a like a lower crazy. I don't even know. I don't know anymore about like what you can and cannot get. I know. I'm cool with it.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Yeah. I'm I'm fine with it. I'm I'm learning how to manage. Um, yeah, it is what it is. I mean, it's was never the plan to be this anxious as a human being, but hey, here we are, living living in 2026 with all the shit that has come down in the past two decades. So it's stuff it's an interesting life.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Anyway, I I just sorry, I got distracted because it sounded like Poppy with the Hey, no, no, what is she eating? Peeing on the rug right now.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Well, that's a good note then to end on.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

On that note, Court, I love seeing your face. Um on my dick. What is going on?

SPEAKER_00 22:54

I tried to show you the pee-pee. There it is, right there. Oh that little fucker. That's on me. It's on me, because it always is when the puppy miss does something wrong. Anyway, um, Emily, it's been a pleasure. You too, I love you so love you.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Um, I will talk to you here soon and to all of our listeners. Thank you so much for tuning into season one. Go back and watch and listen to some of our favorites. They're all of them are so wonderful. Um, but we are gonna be back with awesome guests in season two in about a month. Amen. So until then, share, share the podcast, rate us, review us, watch us, listen, download, tell us you hate us, whatever. Tell us you and write in, please. Um, I love reading those emails that come in. So you can reach us at that wasn't the plan pod at gmail.com or go to our website at that wasn't the plan.com. You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, and all of our videos are up on Spotify and YouTube if you want to see what we look like.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

Um we're delightfully old.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

And we do for just for c for transparency, there is a filter on my face.

unknown 24:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

Because I love watching the videos. I'm like, my God. I slap that filter on. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

You know what I should do? I should put on one of those like crazy filters that gives us like all the eye makeup and the cat. Yeah, it might be called the Kardashian filter. Um it's it anyways, it's funny. Yeah, it's I tell you. I should do that one of these days. You should. Until then. Bye, everybody. Love you. Have safe travels. Thank you very much. We'll see you later. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Okay, bye.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

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