SPEAKER_01 0:04

That wasn't the plan.

SPEAKER_05 0:10

Good afternoon. I apologize for my tardiness. Today I was having to glue my front tooth into my face. But first, because I've glued it so many times with super glue, that's right, super glue. Um, so it should build up. I have a little kit, nail file, and my super glue in it. And I have to file down the super glue that's built up, so then the tooth will just lay out front. Um, and then I knock it out a lot easier. So I apologize. And then I threw makeup on and I was like, whoops, my hair. And then I was like, this is what it's gonna do. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 0:52

Back hair schmack hair. You never disappoint.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

I mean, I just and let me, I mean, it's just, and it's all my own fault.

SPEAKER_05 1:02

Like all my teeth issues, you know, these are things that choices I've made, yada, yad, yad, yad.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

It's not your fault that you were you were born with chipmunk teeth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:12

Tiny little teeth that there was a rumor about me in high school that all of my teeth were baby teeth.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Was it a rumor?

unknown 1:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Is it true?

SPEAKER_05 1:21

It was not a rumor, but I still had five baby teeth in c in high school. And when I went to college, I had four baby teeth still. And I was like, it's fine. I'll just use those. Courtney, what how does it fall out? Like, what have you been doing to I just love chewing on like curbs? I just Oh no. Apparently, I've been told by my dentist now that said that yeah, implants fall out sometimes. Not the actual implant. That puppy's still in there, but the tooth itself, because I grind my teeth in such a way, I'm like, I want them off. Do you sleep with like a chew guard? I have to sleep with one of those because I will need to. I should. Um, I'm learning the hard lessons now. But honestly, I'm a typical addict, like all or nothing. I really thought once I got my teeth up top, the implants, I'll never have another tooth problem in my life. And that's not the case. So I appreciate you listening. And everyone in my life is like, fuck, she's talking about her taste again. So I truly have not even told my friends. Like they would, and they would be so sweet and wonderful like about it, but I just know they'd be like, Oh my fucking God, I don't think I could do this again with her.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Well, we we hear you. We're not gonna be sweet and wonderful about it because it's kind of funny. It is fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_05 2:44

And it's okay because it is funny. Yeah. I mean, what else is it supposed to be? Am I gonna cry? I I will say when it first fell out, I was driving and I hysterically called the dentist who's now retired, did my implants, and left him a message and was like, What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? And um then I went home and I told my husband, I was like, I need I need a full day. So I laid at home and I cried. Like I was just exhausted. I'm like, but mainly because I'm just exhausted and I really just wanted to feel sorry for myself. And I did, and now it's just it's really funny. And I'm so blessed that I have, you know, I could have no teeth. And look at you. Look at you, Serebats, with your freaking cool ass bangs. I know.

SPEAKER_07 3:30

And all your teeth. Originals. What the fuck? I do still have a baby tooth in there though. I do know. Uh-huh. Yeah, I can't remember where it is, but it's somewhere. It's in there somewhere. So one one of these days. Um, my dad also has fake teeth. He has a bridge from getting in a motorcycle accident when he was like in his 20s. And so his teeth regularly fall off. They do. Well, see, I feel better.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

That's what the belly is. And my dentist was like, get some gorilla glue. And I was like, I'm sorry, what? What?

SPEAKER_07 4:10

So I know what it feels like. The stuff they tell you not to eat, you want me to put it.

SPEAKER_05 4:16

Right? I can tell you what it feels like to get super glue on your tongue. It's fascinating because it just like I got a whole bunch of it on the tip of it, and it just go like and it peels right off.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Easier than your fingertips. Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 4:35

Oh my god. So how many times have I glued my finger to my fucking tooth? A lot. A fucking lot. And then I'm like, ah.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

So how do how do you glue it back on? Is there like something to attach it to in your mouth?

SPEAKER_05 4:52

Because it's a there's like a metal, and it's so it looks really crazy if I don't have it in, and that I have forgotten it's not in, and I'll be like smiling at teenagers or my husband in my panties and I'm like, anything in that? And he's like, and he's so sweet. He's like, I love it. And I was like, and then I'm like, oh dear God, I don't have that too.

SPEAKER_09 5:17

Sorry, you guys.

SPEAKER_05 5:19

But yeah, so there's something there. Um, but I also have to file that too, because you get super glue on it and it builds up. So then I mean, we will get to a place where this isn't an issue anymore. And I normally wouldn't bring it up, but because I was late and I was like, I feel like they'll be understanding. And then I had to put makeup on. They look gorgeous.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

Forever young. Well, Courtney Holland, thank you for joining us today. And Sarah Beth Wood is back in action, our guest co-host. And I am Emily White. And for all of our listeners, thank you for joining us.

SPEAKER_05 6:01

Thank you so much for joining us. Ladies, this has been a big week for our family. Allison got accepted into Virginia Tech.

unknown 6:10

Woo!

SPEAKER_04 6:10

Very big deal.

SPEAKER_05 6:13

Congratulations!

SPEAKER_04 6:14

I know.

SPEAKER_05 6:14

She's very excited, and it's funny because she's um she's in the she's go uh she's majoring studio art. She's doing really she's just she's so talented, so artistic, so it's just fabulous is the word I want to use when I think of her. But it was so cute because when I got here, they already knew, but they waited like two hours and then she set up a camera to film telling me. And we were playing Scrabble, obviously, because that's all we ever do, me and Jonathan. And so she sat there with her laptop and she kept saying to me, like, I wanted to show you something. And I'm like, Okay, yeah, let's finish this game. Like, because I thought it was homework stuff, and I wanted to be able to like give her my attention.

SPEAKER_02 6:57

And so she she filmed it. So she sat there with her laptop, and you can see the the Virginia Tech acceptance like screen. Just sit there waiting for me to like give me okay. And I'm like, I'm playing Scrabble. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 7:11

A big right bear. Yeah. So finally you see Jonathan like poking her and be like, just do it. And Jonathan gets up and he goes, Hey, she wants you to look at this. I was like, Oh, okay. And so I I got ready. And then as I'm looking at it, I thought she had just made her own like PowerPoint of what it would feel like to get accepted. So I was like, cool, very cool. And then I was like, and then they both stand up and they're like, yay! And I was like, wait, wait, what? And then I screamed a bunch.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

You're like, good job on that PowerPoint deck. I'm like, you might want to make this font a little bit bigger. I know.

SPEAKER_05 7:45

I was like, and honestly, my first thought was this is this is very basic for you. Like I was thinking, you are much more creative than this. Because it was like hokey feet and like confetti, and I'm like, you know, where are the mermaids? We're where the magic sparkled dust fairies. That's awesome. Isn't that so cool? So she got accepted, and then we are bringing in a new family member. We are getting a new puppy, a girl. It's not a purebred anything. It's a mutt. And I don't know the man. It's a friend of a friend of a friend, and he's just looking to get rid of these puppies because his dog got pregnant by a wiener dog. And uh, what? I know, I know.

SPEAKER_08 8:31

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 8:32

But his dog is not a wiener dog, so his dog is a little bit bigger than a wiener dog, so Lord only knows how this happened. He sent me five pictures of these little girl puppies, and he's like, which one do you want? And I'm like, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

I can't do that.

SPEAKER_05 8:44

I want her to choose me. So I'll be able to be like, this. Oh and then Paolo, I know it's gonna help him get a lot more like chill, and he loves having a companion. And because he makes me and Jonathan chase him into the backyard. He wants to play. He's like, please come play with me. Um, so yeah, I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_07 9:06

I have no idea. I know. That's so exciting.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

So is the is the uh puppy owner right now just gonna pick one for you? Or is he gonna bring them all over? No, I'll probably go there.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

Um and honestly, like, and they all look very, really different. One of them looks like a uh Rottweiler Doodle, but it's tiny. Um it's a free dog. They're not bred. He just so I also kind of want to be like, I'll pay to get your dog fixed and give you a vasectomy too, sir. You know, two for one. Just because I, you know, if he wants one, not that he has to have one. Like, hey, what if I can fix it, just offer a picture too? Yeah, nothing to do with him. I don't know him. I'm sure he's a lovely man, but I just, you know, why not offer him a vasectomy?

SPEAKER_03 9:54

I'm like, I'm gonna fix it.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

So you yeah, just bring out a scalpel on your super glue while you're at it. I will.

SPEAKER_05 10:01

I'm not even gonna wear my tooth.

SPEAKER_07 10:03

He's gonna be like that's how it works.

SPEAKER_05 10:05

Yeah, lady, I think you need to use that money for something other than my vasectomy. I think you need to fix your face.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

So, yeah, that's what my weekend's been like. How about you, ladies? What have you been up to? I spent way too much money getting my hair colored yesterday, and it's orange. I don't think it's like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

Let me get in there.

SPEAKER_05 10:30

Yeah, I'm like, let me show my forehead and my age. I I'm having trouble seeing if that's a light reflecting or it is.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

I've also got like the big window right here, so light coming in. Um can you see my bald spot? It's orange. It's orange, Courtney. The cat wouldn't even look at me this morning. She ran out of the room and then she came back in and like threw this red foam nose at me and said, get to work, clown.

SPEAKER_05 10:59

Wow. Wow. Sagajawea.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Yeah. She's got some tooth right now.

SPEAKER_05 11:05

Yeah. Well, I'm looking at Sarah Beth's hair and your hair. It's hers, it's much cuter than mine. I mean, no, no, no. I was saying the color wise. The color wise. Yeah. Like, yeah, Sarah Beth looks way better than you, Emily. I know.

SPEAKER_07 11:21

I know.

unknown 11:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:24

Don't you feel great about yourself right now, Emily?

SPEAKER_05 11:28

I really think it's not as bad as you think it is, and it's gonna chill.

SPEAKER_07 11:34

Yeah. And it fades with a wash very red, fades super fast.

SPEAKER_05 11:38

Does it? Okay, good.

SPEAKER_07 11:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:40

Yeah. It doesn't look that different to me, Emily.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Well, it's because it's pulled back anyway. Yeah, and I've got some. Can we let it be happening? Can we let her let her rip? Let her slide. Oh, it's also really thin. I don't know if I've shared with both of you. I think maybe I shared with Sarabeth, but uh my hair recently started falling out because I'm really stressed out. Um and my doctor diagnosed me with uh can you see it? It's it's fucking orange.

SPEAKER_04 12:07

Let's all get I see the yeah, we're all get closer to the camera there.

unknown 12:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

I mean, Emily, I I'm gonna tell you, I like it.

SPEAKER_05 12:21

I mean, I I think that once you wash it, it's gonna take that tinge out, but it doesn't look that different. And also your hair looks voluptuous and beautiful. I know I'm not saying that you it's not thinning and whatever how you feel is what matters, but from the looks, like you're totally babe.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Yeah. Well, thanks. I appreciate that. I needed to hear that. Uh, my hair has been falling out progressively over the past few months, um, like literally in clumps in the shower. It's different from when I was losing it during chemo, because then it was just like sections at a time, and I could feel it running down my back. This is just like, you know, and you wash it and then it's I constantly just pull it out, and then I'll comb it in the shower, and it's just chunks and chunks and chunks. So I finally went to the doctor. I've been like spending a fortune on, you know, supplements and drops and all that sort of stuff, but he diagnosed me with telogen effovium, um, which is a temporary hair loss. And he said it usually lasts three to six months, and then it'll take like six to nine months to kind of regrow. But I have a an appointment in a couple months with a hair specialist too at the dermatology. Yeah. Um, so you can be proactive and fucking do it.

SPEAKER_05 13:37

That's great.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

For everybody out there listening, um, do everything you can to de stress your life because if you don't, you're gonna start losing your hair, and that's not a good look. You can thank your parents for it. Yeah, I actually that's the whole reason. Or maybe one of the reasons this falling out is because of my parents. So great.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

It really looks beautiful. I okay, but it doesn't matter what I think. I mean, it is really about how you feel. Yeah, and I don't feel good.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Like it's it's hard. Like things are good except for my hair falling out. And just this week, the amazing astronauts We as a species are capable of such beauty and compassion and cooperation together to make something like that happen. Look what we can accomplish to help us better humanity, better the world, better our understanding. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:32

I appreciated like the astronauts' perspective when they would talk about like looking at our beautiful planet and just in the midst of like vast, like not emptiness, but like uninhabitable, like we can't live anywhere else. And we just have this beautiful little marble in space, and like and we're just all here, like on this tiny little thing. And just how they were talking about all of us as humans, like we are all just humans, and we all need this space to like live, and this is all we got. I feel like everybody, I mean, hopefully the people that really need to open their minds and their heart to that message were listening, but I don't know if they're quite capable of kind of critical thinking.

SPEAKER_05 15:23

Right. Yeah, exactly. I I think they listen.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

I don't think they heard it though.

SPEAKER_05 15:26

Isn't it true? Like you can hear something, you can be like, I heard what you said, you can repeat it back, but if you don't like and internalize it, like digest it, like it's not gonna do you any good. At least I know that for me. Just the most genius helpful slogans and and that I've heard over years and years and years, and then suddenly it like I'm like, I take it in, and I'm like, oh wow. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 15:54

I was I can't remember what I was if I was ri reading something or listening to something, but it was like listen to people without listening to respond, and just listen to just like take it in. Like, cause sometimes I feel like, well, for me too, like when I'm talking to somebody, I'm like, well, I'm gonna think about like what they want me to say or what they need me to say or hear, and I'm like, no, just like you don't have you don't have all the answers, girl. Like come here, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Hey, oh Krogo, he's so cute, he's got like just the most adorable face. Oh my god, is he a pit bull?

SPEAKER_03 16:34

Oh my god, he's perfect in every way.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

He's a sweet boy.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

Oh god, does he have a pink belly?

SPEAKER_07 16:43

Yes, and he loves to like when he lays out in the sun in his baked potato, he just gets like so pink. He is like, he's got he gets sunburnt.

SPEAKER_05 16:58

Freaking that brings so much joy to my soul. A pink bellied dog. Oh yes, white pink bellied pit bull.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

Oh golly. That's what I'm gonna name this episode pink bellied dog.

SPEAKER_04 17:11

You've got pink bellied dog, I pet that dog. I pet that dog.

SPEAKER_05 17:17

That will never get old to me. I love that.

SPEAKER_07 17:22

Oh my gosh. I definitely judge people that don't want to pet my dog. Yeah, right. I'm like, especially like I get like Pogo's pretty intimidating. I mean, he's a 70-pound pit bull. Um so perfect. He's like very big. And I'm like, I get it. Like, some people are scared, I totally understand that. But um I have a 13-year-old pit bull as well that is is like just a gentle old soul. And he was like, we were we took him to the wine bar the other night, and he was just like split, he was like spluting there, just like laying down. And like some people like walked past him and didn't even acknowledge, and I was like, gross. I was like dare judging. Like, I am judging your soul. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 18:09

Anyway, what kind of mother did you have?

SPEAKER_03 18:14

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_05 18:16

I feel that way about people that are like not, or like dogs that are like okay. I just don't connect with that because I it it's just animals. And that's why I'm not afraid to get older and older and older and not have kids, is because I mean, not birds any kids. I animals will fill my life. Yes, same. Like this getting this pup, like, and I will have her young so I can do and she's small because I can do the work, you know, to make her happy, healthy. She'll be the happy, friendly puppy, and she's gonna help Paolo knock on wood though.

SPEAKER_07 18:56

I have definitely gotten more into animals as I've gotten older. Yeah, I know my pa my sister's like, you're the one that has like I had three dogs at one point, and she was like, That is so wild. Like I was it was definitely the opposite and really interesting. Yeah, but I think also not having kids, I feel like it feels it feels like that nurturing like taking care of something that I'm probably missing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 19:21

I'm the same way.

SPEAKER_05 19:23

I never felt the desire to have a baby. Um, and everyone would talk about my sister was having the baby fever where she was ready, and I've heard a lot of people talk about that. I haven't, but but my God, does my like something happens in my fallopians when I see a baby animal where it's like get it? Yeah, and it's and I'm embracing it. And I've been telling, I talk about it all the time how I just want a baby animal like to hold on to.

SPEAKER_07 19:51

I see all these people that find them like online where they're just like, Oh, it was just like running and I found this little child. And I'm like, can that happen to me?

SPEAKER_01 20:00

What? I know they're like on vacation in Italy or something, and they're like, and this cat approached me, and then here we are traveling around the world together. And it's like, fuck, how does that happen? Because I walk around like with mortadella like trailing behind me just to get animals to approach me on vacation.

SPEAKER_05 20:17

Speaking of which, my my mom, when she first met Paolo, because he was traumatized and I knew that, and and he was very shy, scared. My mom literally covered her covered her toes with bacon grease in the hopes that that would and she came walking out because right when we got there to meet him, she's walking out on her heels, she's like, bacon, bacon grease.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

I was like, Isn't that so fucking sweet? That is what I love my mom. Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

She's the best.

SPEAKER_05 20:48

Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

All she wants is grandchildren.

SPEAKER_05 20:51

And I'm like, I brought a traumatized dog. You can't go near it. By God, no.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Oh Jesus, no. Don't look directly at it.

SPEAKER_05 21:03

No, do not, and you really can't. You're you can't look at him. Like it's it's bizarre. So hopefully this other puppy will. But yeah.

SPEAKER_07 21:11

Has he gotten better? Like, has he like come out of his shell?

SPEAKER_05 21:15

And a little bit. I mean, we're five years in now, so he is. Um, but there are still moments when I can't catch him, and he is just a wild dog loose, scared of everybody. It's almost like I think there's brain damage, to be honest. I think there's a little bit of something that happened, like where he forgets who I am, forgets that I'm safe, and then he's just running. And as you can see in his eyes, he's got like, you know, dial tone eyes. But the real cool thing is Jonathan has put in the work and he loves Jonathan. He won't like he loves us, but if I try to approach him out of nowhere, he'll be like, you know, he's like, Who are you? Yeah. So my sister calls him uh 50 First Dates because he'd sleep at their House, and then the next morning he's like, Who are you, people? Like he has no idea who that anybody is.

SPEAKER_07 22:07

He's like a goldfish, his memory like resets. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:11

So bless his little horror. Oh he's definitely got it. I know, but he's so and that's why I do think because he's at home with chaotic animals. Like he is very like cool with all animals. Like he doesn't attack, he doesn't, he doesn't destroy things, he doesn't chew on things, he's just scared under the bed. He's good. So I do think a puppy is really gonna help. Again, I feel like I'm just I'm knocking on wood everywhere because I feel like I'm like, it's really all gonna be fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

But um and it might be. It really I'll make it fantastic.

SPEAKER_05 22:45

Like I have the power to do the to put in the time and the work with a puppy and pal to get them, you know. I'm gonna just tandem lead them and just let them go outside. Yeah. You guys are friends now. What was his backstory? What was he so I they said that he was in a hoarding situation and they had to catch the puppies. Like, so I think they had been, I think they had been in a home and they so anytime you try to offer him a treat, he is like what like that is a trigger for him. Anytime you look at him, that's a trigger for him. If you're a man, that's triggering for him. If you're a noise, you're that's triggering for him. But um, but he's not afraid of like the lawn mower. Like he hangs out with me when I mow the lawn. That's like the happiest boy. When I'm mowing and he's behind me, like snipping at my heels, and he's having a great time. Oh, okay. Yeah, you see him outside as tails up. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

You wouldn't ever know that he's maybe it's being inside that's an issue for him.

SPEAKER_05 23:51

I think it is.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Like if it was a hoarding situation and he traumatized just by being indoors, like any sound, maybe it was a really bad situation.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

Well, and they were so sweet. They were like, you know, he's timid. And I was like, Oh man, I can handle timid, like you know. And also now I know more about when I approach a shy dog. I always thought if I got down real low and I just calmly put my hand out, they'd be like, She's good, she's a good person. They could tell. And then they will open up to me, and that is not how it goes, yo. Yeah. There's no, there is no person that can approach Paolo and he's gonna be like, You're safe. Like he's even if you know him, me, even, I'll be like, Paolo, hi. And he's like, No, I don't fucking trust your ass. Nope.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

I'm the same way I think all animals want to be my friend. They're like, look at her. Let's let's go over to her house. Like crows on the street, squirrels, and they're like, ow, Emily's out.

SPEAKER_05 24:46

Yay! Yeah, they're gonna sense it. They're gonna sense my good-naturedness.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

And then I see him coming toward me, but it they're like dive bombing and yeah, like trying to peck my eyes out. I'm gonna kill this bitch. They're like, Who is that crazy clown with orange hair?

SPEAKER_05 25:02

Yeah, who is that clown? Yeah, where's her nose? Nobody likes clowns.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Nobody likes clowns.

SPEAKER_05 25:07

Nobody likes a clown. Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

Good luck.

SPEAKER_05 25:12

So now, uh-oh, Sarah Beth, now it's gonna seem like I don't like animals because I see a shy dog and I'm like, he don't want to fuck. And I know it. Yeah, so I'm doing it for him, but I'm gonna seem like the piece of shit.

SPEAKER_07 25:24

Oh, that's that is I'll take that. It's a fair point. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you don't it and you do have to be respectful of the dog's space because you don't I do appreciate that. So I will retract my statement of like, okay. Oh no. Yeah. Like retract. I thought like that was it was a it was a hot take and probably it was absolutely correct.

SPEAKER_04 25:47

Strike that from the record.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

I'll strike it out. All right. Your honor.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

No, but when I see dogs like staying, I know not to approach them because a lot of people are like, don't approach my dog, like not friendly. Yeah. So I try and to like, if I see the dog like, oh, wagon tail and want to come sniff, I kind of look at the owner, I'll look down at the dog, and then I'll stick my hand out, like not palm out, but the back of my hand so they can sniff. And then like, and then it's okay.

SPEAKER_05 26:17

Like, I'll walk by, especially alone. If I see a dog, I want to pen him, but I'm just like, I'm just not going to. And I'm just going. So everyone around, and I don't have a tooth, and so I'm like, oh, boy, oh boy, I like that dog. Nobody's making eye contact with you. Nobody's making eye contact with me. Someone approaches me with their hand and they're like, anyway.

SPEAKER_07 26:46

Are you friendly?

SPEAKER_04 26:48

Not friendly.

SPEAKER_07 26:50

Not friendly. Toothless and anxious.

SPEAKER_09 26:57

Yeah, but yeah, I I so I'm excited to to to talk about the puppy and that experience because when I got Rooster was my first puppy ever.

SPEAKER_05 27:17

And I mean some of the best days of my life were just hanging out with this tiny little animal that I loved so completely and so fully. And she was my velveteen rabbit. Miss that girl.

SPEAKER_07 27:33

Love you, Roosty. Give it up, the rooster. Okay. Never, never with us long enough. That is for sure.

SPEAKER_05 27:40

It's so true.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

That's heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_05 27:43

I saw a comedian talk about how getting a dog, you're like, hey, um, I'd like to have my heart broken severely in about 10 years. I'll get a dog. And that's exactly what it is. You're signing up for heartbreak, but God, it's so worth it. It really is.

SPEAKER_07 27:59

Oh, they bring so much joy. And just love it. And a doc don't shop. Adopt don't shop. Yeah. A doc. Oh my gosh. Yeah. There are just so many animals that are that need a home. And and a lot of animals, like everybody's like, but I want a purebred. And it's like, okay, but a lot of people get purebred animals and then they end up at the shelter because they're like, oh, this thing like turned into a dog. Yep. Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Oh, Jumpy's out there. I've got a little squirrel. He's missing most of his tail. He's just got this stub. And he comes by every day. I'm I need to go give him some nuts. I'll be right back.

unknown 28:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Sweet. How is Jumpy? He's good. He's so cute. Yeah, he's adorable. Um I've been feeding him for probably three months now since he first made an appearance. Yeah. He's real cute. I call him Jumpy because when you see squirrels like all over the place, but they have such long tails, you don't ever get to see their butts and how they actually move. So his tail is mostly gone. And he's just got this little nubbin. And so it's like his little jumpy butt. It's just the cutest thing when he like jumps. So I name named Jump Jumpy. I've got all kinds of squirrels that I know in my yard. And yeah, every year it's like one new squirrel that I make friends with.

SPEAKER_07 29:21

And they're all friends with your cat.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

They're all friends. It's really adorable. They play together. They play hide and seek. So I leave my front door kind of propped open for when I'm home and you know the cat's awake. I leave it propped so she can like come and go from the front porch. And squirrels know that I feed them. So they they will like kind of stick their little noses in through the door there, and she'll be waiting on the other side, and she jumps out at them and then they scamper away and then she'll run back inside and wait by the door. They do it again and they do it again. And I've caught them out in the yard like chasing each other before. It's the cutest thing. It brings me so much joy.

SPEAKER_05 30:01

I'm like, that is the joy of life. I know the joy of life. That is why we live and breathe.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

That's exactly it. Yes. It's little shit like that that I'm just like, oh, my heart. And you feel it, and you're like, this is it.

SPEAKER_07 30:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:14

I will tell you guys uh something positive about Los Angeles when I lived there and I was dog walking, and I went to a dog park with one of the dogs I was taking care of, and I found a cluster of baby squirrels like all holding each other. So I was like, of course I could not leave them there. They were no mama nearby. I think I went into the park, and other women were like, Yeah, there's these squirrels. We don't know what to do. So of course I took the squirrels, baby squirrels, put them in a carrier I had, and then I called uh one of my work friends, and she was like, Oh, there's a there's a squirrel lady in Santa Monica. You can take her there. It's a squirrel rescue. I was like, whatever. I didn't believe it. So I called, and the gal was like, Oh, absolutely. Yeah, here's my address. I go over there and I walk up the stairs, and I'm not, I know I exaggerate, but this is real what I saw. Squirrels, I mean, this was just a regular apartment complex, but squirrel's like, Who's here? Who's this woman? Stamper on the rails, hello, welcome. And then this woman comes out and she had this long, beautiful red wavy hair. Um, dressed in a beautiful dress. She was like, Welcome, who have we had who do we have here? And I showed her and she's like, Oh, three lost little souls. Well, bring the bear, oh, just a moment, and I swear to you, there was a squirrel that had approached on the railing, and she had a bucket of walnuts, and she was like, One moment, she hands a walnut to that squirrel, and they both curtsy, and then the squirrel goes off. They did not curtsy, but everything else is true. Everything else is true. So she took those three baby squirrels. She had two apartments, one was her living apartment, and one was for the animal, the the squirrel, squirrels specifically, sanctuary in Santa Monica.

SPEAKER_07 32:01

Oh my gosh. See, I love it. There is something for everybody has their thing, and we all it we we need everybody to make the world go round, and so the little baby squirrels that lose their mama have a place to go. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:17

And inside she had crates and little like bins where there were other baby squirrels. I'm like, Oh my god. I was like, is there a place I can donate to you? And she was like, Oh, no need. We get plenty of funding from this, that, the other, but uh she's just oh that's incredible. Isn't that so cool?

SPEAKER_07 32:33

Hell yeah. That's amazing. I just imagine she answered the door in a snow white costume.

SPEAKER_05 32:39

That's exactly that's when I talked about it because she was wearing a dress and she was just beautiful and inside and out, and just so sweet, like no stress of like, okay, three more maybe squirrels.

unknown 32:51

Fuck.

SPEAKER_05 32:52

You know, she was just like, and then when she gave me my carrier back, because I had them and it was like a fabric carrier, she goes, So what you're gonna want to do when you get home with this is you're gonna want to fill the bathtub with water, put the carrier, submerge it completely to drown the fleas because it is filled with fleas now. And I was like, Oh, oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

I know just put that in my house, right? She brought it into her house and she was like, But from those little babies that were all there. Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Yeah. I wish I still like had the camera roll from my first flip flown because you know we were taking this back then. I had that picture of them just, I think it was only three of them. They were just desperately holding on to each other. So there was a place for squirrels to go. And who gives a shit about squirrels? You know, like I appreciate that. It's not an elephant, it's not something magical.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

There is a really great Instagram account, and I believe it's squirrel.boxes. And so it's this one person, or maybe it's several people, but they have like these little homes, and you can buy them and put them on your trees or on your fence or wherever in your backyard, and they've got cameras in there, and it shows like the squirrel families that live in there, and then the mama giving birth, and then she's feeding her babies, and they're sleeping, and they cuddle together, and you look at them, and you're just like, they're just like little humans, they're you know, cuddling with each other, and yeah, one of them's like giving one of them side eye, like I'm trying to sleep over here, and you're you're dealing with the children. Get out of here, yeah. Yeah, it's real cute, it's really oh man. When the world is on fire, go to squirrel boxes, go to squirrel boxes.

SPEAKER_05 34:27

I do like that. Uh, I one I did want to share one thing today. So, this was the day um a dear friend of mine named Rosemary passed away. Um, and here's a picture of her. This is her and her chair, and then this is the best because this is her with her dog, and uh her name is Nika. And um so this is the wife of my one of the most influential people in my life. Rosemary was also one of those people, um, but it's she's my sponsor, NAA. And it's funny because I met Rosemary because I was sponsoring her. So they were both going to the same meetings, and I was hearing from both of them that they had a crush on each other. And by some grace of God, I shut my mouth and I I wanted so badly to be like, this is it. I'll marry you myself. And I just was like, nope. I mean, trying to keep with AA, you know, trying to be like, I'm a sponsor, sponsor for her, she is my sponsor. So uh the reason I bring up not only because she passed uh at this time last year, but this woman, Rosemary, did work that not a lot of people can do or should do. She was a child sexual assault and domestic violence counselor at the Women's Resource Center. The things that she did, and you know how the saying is hurt people, hurt people. Well, hurt people also heal people. The amount of things that she'd gone through in her life just unbelievable. And she worked really hard to get to a place of peace. And sometimes you just don't ever get there. And she worked at it. Um, but she was still able to turn her life experience into service to children, you guys. This was children. So she worked with sexually assaulted children, which is powerful, man. Like unbelievable. And she was um at one point, I was uh really struggling with mental health issues. I remember she came over to my house and sat with me on the couch and held my hand and just said, You just gotta feel it. You know, and you're okay. You're okay. The confidence that she had approaching children and like I mean, it's just phenomenal. We do not have we need more, we need more. And um sadly, she passed away because of COVID. She had long COVID. Oh jeez, I know. And it was how old was she? She was let's see. I don't do math. Does someone here do math? She was born in 62. Okay. And died in 24.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Okay. So she was like, yeah. Oh, wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 37:13

That was easier than I thought. Um, but she had the spirit of a of a young lady, and she cracked me up, man. Um, yeah, she's just a really cool ass woman. And oh, I did actually marry them. I married them. I got I became an ordained minister.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

Very cool.

SPEAKER_05 37:30

Isn't that cool? I didn't even think about that. I totally manifested that because I was like, and later on we laughed about it because I was like, and Rosemary's coming to me, and she's like, I like her, but I it's not, it's fine. Then Melissa's like, I really like her, but I'm just not gonna say anything. And I'm I, you know, because I'm a blabber mouth, I was like, I couldn't, I almost I almost exploded. I couldn't handle it. But so uh I texted my sponsor today, and she's in North Carolina right now, hiking, just kind of thinking about her. And and it and it was it was a rough, it was rough. She was in the hospital, and they did end up donating her organs. And um, I if I I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna fact check myself. Um, I believe her eyes were donated to someone that couldn't see. Yeah, it was a long battle, so God bless her. She hung in there, and so when I married them, she had already been hospitalized once. I think I married them 2023, and we have pictures and we did a little just a little ceremony, and it was it was really so cool to be a part of it. And special gal, love you, Rosemary. Missed you, missed you so much. She's just and I mean, just the service that she did for kids, like that is not sexually traumatized children, like and she once shared with me that it was really hard for her, and this is a hot take, it was really hard for her to believe that not that all men weren't pedophiles because of her experience. The things that she had hurt, you know, seen. She just was like, I just don't know if I'll ever believe that all men secretly in some place, somewhere or another, are pedophiles. We should turn that into a little clip and then just leave it there on the internet, right? Click, bank. All men are pedophiles.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

Doink. I've already been banned from a few sites for speaking my opinion online.

SPEAKER_05 39:24

So I mean that trust is broken for sure. Yeah. Like, right? I mean and just what the things that she saw, and she was able to do that work and be able to go home. And she did internalize it. It wasn't perfect or easy, or but it was her she loved her work and she also loved, loved clay making, making pot out of clay. What is that called? Potter called clay play.

SPEAKER_03 39:53

The pottery, thank you. No, clay play. It is it is now officially called clay play. Holy shit, that's amazing. Oh, Rose. I just told everybody in the world that you liked clay play. That's awesome. Fucking clay play.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

I like to get my hands real wet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

I really truly couldn't think of the name. Yeah. Do not type that into Google.

SPEAKER_05 40:38

I will not. Or I should. Maybe I need to learn a lesson shooting my mouth around. Oh yeah, I just wanted to bring her up because man, she was just such a such a special, special woman. And I know we all have people, you know, that we've lost in our lives that have played such a like she played a huge role in my sobriety and recovery and also my dealing with mental illness and my own struggles with that. So she was just pretty, pretty fantastic gal.

SPEAKER_06 41:09

So we miss you, Rose.

SPEAKER_07 41:11

Here's to Rosemary. Here's to Rosemary. The world definitely better because she was here. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. I hope may we all like we could only be so lucky for people to say that about us, you know. Absolutely, right? Yeah. And I love that um you do always hear that like hurt people hurt people. But I think that I love her saying of like hurt people heal people, like that. They really do. Let's make that like Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 41:41

Let's change the narrative there. Well, and also like that she never got to I mean, she it was a continuing work. You know, she never got to a place where I would say that she would say, I'm healed. Um, never. So it was and I don't know if anyone can, the things that she went through. Like, I don't know if that's something that they get to a place where they're like, I'm good, you know.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

So it's a it's a I think you live with trauma forever. Yeah. And it's just, you know, different degrees of how severe it is. Um and I think you're able to move through it and get to you move beyond like the initial trauma, but I I think it always lives with you. It's always absolutely there. Yeah, isn't that book called the The Body Keep Score?

SPEAKER_05 42:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

The Body Keeps the Score. Um I haven't read it. Or maybe I have. I believe I did actually I think Rosemary suggested it to me. There's another good one called Surviving Storms by Narc Mark Nipo. Um that's also really good.

SPEAKER_05 42:42

Surviving Storms. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

I read that um when I was in recovery from cancer. Yeah. Oh man. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_07 42:50

And probably good for people that that are lucky enough to not have experienced trauma, just to understand how it affects people and better be able to like show up for those people in whatever way that is.

SPEAKER_05 43:04

I'm so grateful for my own personal experiences, which are pale in comparison to some and is 10 times worse than others. But like because of those experiences, I feel like I'm able to approach situations hopefully with more compassion or you know, I'm just grateful for where it's led me to today and where I'm able to be of service to especially women in recovery. That's those are my faves, but I mean fave. That's terrible, but you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 43:32

You know what I mean. Yes, you know, clay play. Come on.

SPEAKER_07 43:38

You get it. You get it. I think you just found the title of this episode. I know. But nobody quite knows what it is.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

No. I mean, there's so many It could be anything.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

It is everything. We we have kind of we've gone the full spectrum on. We didn't even have like an agenda. For this episode. That's what I love. Grateful to have like this is a getting to know you episode because you know, here we are hosting this podcast. Other than the sh stories that we've shared, we don't really talk about like other things in our daily lives. We don't have a lot of anecdotes. Courtney does have more, but um, so many problems. My God, Courtney, please keep them. I my memory, I can't remember. I'm sure I've got billions, but my memory's like so this is a getting to know you episode. So people can actually start to get to know us a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05 44:36

Well, I also teach a jazzer size class at 5 45 in the morning where I wear a microphone. And so I think that I've become used to just sharing weird anecdotes. And but I have a list of things that I'm no longer allowed to talk about. And one of them is how much I like myself. I can't talk about that anymore.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

You can talk about too much. This is the same thing. Jazer size or just in general?

SPEAKER_05 44:58

No, here. They'll they aren't listening. Like they don't listen. I've never told you you can't talk about that. No, you've never told me that. But I've listened to the episodes and I'm like, oh, okay, that's the last time I need to talk about how big of a fan I am of myself. Because I'm becoming less of a fan of myself because I talk about how much of a fan of myself I am. And then I would I back hair. I think I've covered it. I think we're good. Um, even though it is my beloved, I it's my most favorite thing. Your security blanket. It is. When in doubt. Just talk about your story. Good job interview, dinner with the in-laws, hit them with the back hair story. It always brings a laugh.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:40

Maybe loosens everybody up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

But yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:43

There was something else. I can't remember what it was, but something else that I say a lot that I was like, we're good. No more. I'm gonna cut you off, Courtney.

SPEAKER_04 45:51

Look, I talked about it all already again. Oh boy, oh boy, please.

SPEAKER_07 46:02

Yeah, just throw those rules out the window.

SPEAKER_05 46:04

I know. Well, and that's I'm terrible about, I think that, and I don't know if you guys can relate when I'm really excited about something for someone. Like, I can't shut my fucking mouth. And um, my husband's wonderful, fantastic sister is turning 50, and we are all going to Florida to surprise her. And it was wrangled by one of her kids, and the whole thing, we're all at an Airbnb together. It's just her family and our family, and they both of them have five kids, and each kid has like a kid at the same age. Oh, so we were supposed to have dinner with her last night, and all day I was like, What are you doing next weekend? I'm going to my parents' house. Why? Because I'm getting an abortion. What? Like, I was just trying to create a story. So I would be like, I'm like, what are you doing next week? And I'd be like, like, that's what happens.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

My brain is just like, I'm an actor for Christ's sake. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:05

I had a I had a cute boy ask what, yeah. I was on a ski lift and a boy was like, How old are you? And I was like, 16, and I was 15. And he goes, What year were you born?

SPEAKER_01 47:20

I was like, Did you have a helmet and goggles on so you can actually see that you're a 45-year-old woman?

SPEAKER_05 47:26

Like clearly, possibly in my 50s. Who knows? Who knows? No, I was 14. I I think I was 14. And he he was like, How old are you? And I was like, I'm 16. And then he was like, What year were you born? And I just and he was like, Do you know what year you were born? I was like, Yeah, I'm just thinking. And I could I couldn't come up with it. So for years I've thought of other things I could have said. Like, I could have said, I was born on a leap year, so it's complicated, you know. Or I could have just done the fucking math in my head. Or you could have just told him the truth that I was 14. And what does that matter? Nothing happened. We were just on a ski lift, and he was like, later, she's fucking dumb as rocks. Can't add or subtract. Yeah, I was like, I'm 16. I'm chill and I'm experienced. And then he's like, You're what is your birth year? And I just like couldn't put my mouth together to say a thing. I I should have just jumped off the lift and been like, I gotta go. There's my exit.

SPEAKER_03 48:33

Yeah. I think it's your baby teeth that gave it away.

SPEAKER_05 48:38

It was like, how many baby teeth do you have in your mouth?

SPEAKER_04 48:41

I'd be like, I gotta go. My dad calling me, I gotta go.

SPEAKER_05 48:47

Um, but anyway, the point is I don't think well on my feet when it like under pressure. And I felt like if she asked me what I was doing next weekend, I would have been like, I can't talk about it. I don't know. I won't know what I would say. And then other family members would be there, like, Courtney, what the fuck? And I'd be like, I'm getting an abortion. That's why I'm being weird about it. Then that would be like, What? And I'd be like, fine. Yeah. So anyway, I'm so anyway, they canceled, so I didn't have to go.

SPEAKER_07 49:19

That's the end of that. Sorry. So wait, when is the trip to Florida? Next weekend.

SPEAKER_05 49:25

Where in Florida? Uh Bra uh Sarasota. That's where they were all born. Okay. They're all from Sarasota.

SPEAKER_07 49:33

Will this episode air before that?

SPEAKER_01 49:36

I'm actually just gonna send her this rough cut for right now. Oh my god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 49:41

Like I'm thinking right now, I'm like, is she in here? Is she on my phone? Are we live? God. I honestly like I told them, I was like, if I ruin it, I'm literally gonna just walk off into the woods and you'll never see me again. I will leave my life. The the the the the fury that I would be at someone if they ruined this kind of surprise. Like, this is so cool. And it's her 50th, and she's had a she's a fucking badass boss bitch, and she works so hard, and she has just they lost their mom this year. Like, it's just so awesome that they're doing this for her. I'm not ruining it.

SPEAKER_07 50:23

No, I'm not you're not gonna do it. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_05 50:27

Did I tell you her name? No, no, fuck yeah, you'll never find her. She's so freaking lovely. She's wonderful. She's the closest to because Jonathan has 10 siblings. Um, and she's the closest. What the same mom? Same mom. Same mom and dad. They they were married together for and then she passed away last year in May. Oh my god. Vagina just hurts some thinking about it. I know. My Phalopians are like, not a fucking child girl. But I love to talk about how they his parents have 48 grandchildren. Do they know who everybody was? Like oh yeah. Every single name, birthday. I know. Um and my parents have one, and she's a teenager, and she could give a shit. So my poor mom, she loves John's kids, and she puts bacon grease on her feet for when they come over. And I'm like, come here. It's a little different, mom, but give it a whirl.

SPEAKER_07 51:34

I mean, I literally could not breathe when I had the mental image of you at your current age telling a teenager that you were 60.

SPEAKER_03 51:46

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_05 51:48

Oh my god. Oh my god. Can you imagine like how much worse I look in the eyes of someone if I'm like, I'm 16.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

They're like, Jesus fuck, what happened to you?

SPEAKER_07 52:04

I think it's like that thing where when you're with like young people and you're like, God, I feel not cool at all. Like, right? Not cool, but I want to try to be cool. So you like revert back to like your teenager. Like yourself.

SPEAKER_03 52:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

I'm like totally like no cat. I was I was with my boyfriend's daughter last night. She's moving to LA. Um excited. And I was like, I was just about your age when I moved out there too. I was like, oh my God, it's so cool. Like, you're gonna have such a good time in LA. Oh my god, like I really found myself when I'm and I'm like, shut the fuck up. I know who are you?

SPEAKER_03 52:45

You don't even know yourself now, girl. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

God, I was so annoying. And we walked into her car and I said goodbye. And I turned around and I was like, idiot. Oh god, you are so not cool. I know, I'm so not cool.

SPEAKER_05 52:59

Uh, one of the oldest boys, Silas, who is just wonderful, sweet. He has a new girlfriend who's just so awesome. And last night they come over, they were all dressed up to go on a date, and she's wearing a necklace that said Brooklyn. And I, even in my head, I was like, maybe you shouldn't. And I was like, nothing I can do about it now. Here it comes. And I just go, they spelled Silas wrong on your necklace. They spelled it weird. And she laughed and she was like, Oh no, this is for my friend um who died. And I was like, Yeah. And then I just blinked at her for like 30 seconds. I was just like, help me. And Silas is standing nearby, and I'm like, he's never going to speak to me again. No, but she was so chill and she handled it like a champ. And honestly, I knew there was a chance because who else? Why would you wear the name of someone on your, you know, or you can, who cares? Or I was thinking New York.

SPEAKER_07 54:02

And I was like, maybe she really wants to live near. No, but it was spelled with an I. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 54:06

So, um, oh any, yeah. So, but she was totally cool about it. And I was like, I'm, you know, I'm so sorry to hear about a friend. She was like, No, it's kind of a reason to talk about her. I was like, well, tell me about her, you know. So it all turned out, but as it's happening, and she's like, and I was like, it's your friend that died, isn't it? Silence, I'll see myself out.

SPEAKER_03 54:30

But I'll walk into those woods and you'll never see me again. And I even tell myself before I'm around them, I'm like, just be chill.

SPEAKER_05 54:37

Just kind of like hang around in the background. They don't really need you to have opinions about things. I'm sweating now because I remembered that when I was just, I was like, oh fuck, that's right.

SPEAKER_07 54:50

Oh my God. You wake up in the middle of the night and you're like, cool, I said that. Yep. I'm gonna be awake for 30 minutes thinking about it. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 54:58

Like my family is the best audience for me because I could really say anything to them and they think it's funny, and they know me, they know my heart, they know I'm I'm generally a really kind, loving person. So I should just stick my jokes for that crowd. Mainly my mom. My mom. She's your biggest fan aside from you. She's my absolute biggest fan.

SPEAKER_07 55:22

Behind me, I'm my number one. So you should be your biggest fan. I'm saying, absolutely, everybody needs to be their biggest fan.

SPEAKER_05 55:33

Are you guys your biggest fan?

SPEAKER_01 55:36

No.

SPEAKER_05 55:37

Ladies, I need to get on board.

SPEAKER_01 55:41

Courtney, I need the program you went through to do that. Mm-hmm. I'm trying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 55:46

Well, first you have to hate yourself so bad for so long. Been there. Almost want to take your life kind of business. And then just see, like I think it happened, especially if you think about treating yourself the way you treat the people you really love. And I also had a lobotomy, so that helped.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

Oh, yeah, I need that.

SPEAKER_05 56:08

They missed a couple spots, clearly, but um, for the most part, I'm just I'm nice. Couple of marbles rolling around. You you little snakes. I want this is your work assignment. I want you to sit and think about like all the wonderful things that you are and you do for others. Because Lord, I love that I was like, are you ladies your biggest fans? And you're both like, I know.

SPEAKER_07 56:32

It was like pin drop silent, right? Yeah. All right, so what do we do?

SPEAKER_05 56:39

Okay. Um do you guys have vibrators? I'm just kidding. Uh yes, I have a whole closet.

SPEAKER_07 56:49

That's it. Get to work. You just use it and repeat how like just tell yourself how awesome you are.

unknown 56:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

This is the masturbation station. Oh. Here comes the clay play.

SPEAKER_05 57:10

Sunday afternoon in the clay play lounge.

SPEAKER_04 57:18

I named our our next podcast.

SPEAKER_05 57:20

It's called the Clay Play Lounge.

SPEAKER_07 57:25

We just need to let you just sit around and talk and make clay dildo while I'm talking. Yes. While you're talking.

SPEAKER_09 57:35

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Don't forget to give it a nice little tip on the end. Stroke the shaft up and down.

SPEAKER_02 57:42

The veins can be important.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

Depends on who you are, please. But yeah. There's a nice like classical jazz playing in the background. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:54

Oh yeah. Fucking jazz. I do know my age now, though, because I'm was listening, I put on classical music and I listened to it in the car, and I got teary-eyed. I was like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 58:08

Yep. I listen to classical music in the car all the time. Oh, you do? I do. You are way more. It calms me down, and I'm able to just like try and enjoy scenery and stuff. There's this really awesome radio station up here, but sometimes it depends on who the DJ is or uh the show and stuff. It gets kind of angry for me, and I can't deal with that with what's going on in the world and sort of my life right now. So I just need peace and quiet. And for me, that's classical station. I love it. I do.

SPEAKER_07 58:39

I like our jazz station up here, the like public radio jazz station. Yeah. Up here is really nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 58:46

Really? Oh, it's good jazz. It's not like elevator jazz. No.

SPEAKER_07 58:52

Yeah. No, it's like real jazz? I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 58:58

Right? I don't know jazz. And I know people get really worked up about jazz. Um try as I'm saying things, I'm like, oh god, the jazz community. That's gonna come for me. It's gonna come. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

It's gonna come from me. So I took like a jazz 101 or history to jazz or introduction to jazz when I was in college. Really? Yeah, it was a fun elective, and I gotta learn all about it. And you know what?

SPEAKER_05 59:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

Yeah, tell us about that, Emily. Yeah. My memory's on vacation. I don't know where she's at. I think she's gone. I honestly I think she skipped town like a year and a half ago, and she was like, peace. You do not want to remember most of everything that happened to you.

SPEAKER_05 59:43

You took the getting wait, Jazz 101. Was it called Jazz 101?

SPEAKER_01 59:48

It was like a 101 level course or something like that. It was like history of jazz or introduction to jazz. And yeah, I remember all about sitting there, it was like 6 30 on Tuesday, Thursday evenings, and it was a hard time.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:04

Name one jazz great.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

Cole Porter.

unknown 1:00:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:08

There you go. Okay. I was thinking too. I was like, Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:11

Louis Armstrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:14

Yeah, they yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:16

I was trying to do the trumpet.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

Yeah, that works. I know jazz. Yeah, you just yeah, fart noises. That's oh man, you are a jazz fan.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:34

I the the this is the one assignment for how to like yourself.

unknown 1:00:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:39

Take time for yourself, spend time alone. Check for check. And learn to say no to protect your energy. I don't care. I Googled it while we were talking. I was like, how do I like myself? Cultivate authentic relationships, doing it. Compliment yourself.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:01

Did you really? I did.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:03

I Googled, I Googled that shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:04

I got Oh man. I love that you I love that you Googled that.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:08

Because I was like, I'm sure there's a way to do it without having to go all the way down to where you like self-deprecating self. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:17

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:18

Well, that self-deprecating is part of it. I love to be made fun of and I love making fun of myself.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:23

Ew. Like I don't mind making fun of myself because I'm like, great. Part of the stupid shit that I do is why I do love myself, actually. I'm like, I'm in a dead. Like I say things and I do things and I'm like, but that's what makes me me. I love it. How lovable are you?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:37

Like you really are, both of you. Emily, you're I loved when you talked about embracing that you're kind of a bitch. And I was like, that's that's and that what does bitch even mean?

SPEAKER_09 1:01:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:51

Oh, it just yeah, it's honestly it's true. And that only that there isn't a male equivalent, is there? Dick, maybe, but yeah, I guess it's dick.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:00

I feel like everybody just like lumps that I feel like that's just through like the male lens of like a woman that has an opinion who says no, stands up for herself. Catherine Heigel was talking about that because it's like a long time ago when she was like, when her career was like skyrocketing, and like when she started getting, you know, standing up for herself, and then she got labeled as you know, difficult to work with, and it's she's just like, I have a backbone, you know. And I think that so I think that is what I feel like our lens of like what a bitch is is just through what men think a woman should be. I'm like, fuck yeah, fully embrace your bitchiness. Like yeah. I'm like, please call me a bitch. I will happily wear that title. Like, I wish I was more bitchy, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

Me too.

unknown 1:02:48

Me.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

You can hang out with me more. It's women teach the bitch 101 course. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I would love to take it.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:57

Yeah, I would love to take it. But you're right. It's the when you're not being accommodating that makes you bitchy.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

Mm-hmm. By acting like a man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess in my line of work, you know, I've had to kind of take on this assertive sort of personality in order to work with, and it's usually men, big egos who think that they are the bees' knees when it comes to creativity. And it's like, sir, we are producing crap for the masses and calling it art. This is advertising for Pizza Hut.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:41

And this is not an Academy Award-winning film.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:46

So let's take your shit down a notch. Take it down a notch. Yeah. Even if it is, exactly. Even if it is like, take it down a notch. Cause then it's like, okay, Rosemary out there doing like the Lord's work, like helping people like literally changing people's lives. And I'm not saying art can't change people's lives, it absolutely can. It's a lot of it can send a message in. But like, even like Rosemary didn't, I'm well, I didn't know her, but I'm like, is she gonna take herself like so seriously and be like so self-important? Like, does she carry herself like that when she's out there doing like life-changing work? You know?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:22

Of course not. It's like, yeah, I feel like the more important the work, the less they act like it's important.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:27

Right. Yeah, a little bit. And like, and so it's like, let's just all take that mentality, especially in the creative like people who are so self-righteous and important.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:39

Like, like, okay. I learned uh learned a real valuable lesson when I briefly worked in uh audio post and I had to deal with you know all the producers that were young, and and everybody acts like they know exactly what's going on, and nobody knows what's going on. They don't understand the words they're using, they don't know what any of it means. And when I had to learn what the words meant, like ADR or like stuff for audio post, yeah, it people just come with a if you come with a confidence and then you come with a panic, then it you you try to impose your emergency on people where it's not their emergency. Like it's not my emergency that you are booking this late and you don't get the spot you wanted.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:23

Like Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:25

Nobody really knows what they're especially young producers, God bless them. Some of them, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:31

But there's a lot of faking it till you make it in that industry. And yeah. What I appreciate most and what makes me hire people again and again and again and want to work with them over is the PAs or the young people that are kind of green asking questions. Love. They don't know, so they ask questions, and it's like, God bless you. Thank you for asking a question. Like, we don't know everything. What is that? That is that. Actually, I'm not sure. Let's go ask him. This has been such a pleasure. What a glorious chat.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:05

So fun. Gosh. Well, I hope the listeners uh laugh as much as we did because I find this hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:14

I agree. Agreed. I agree. I also need some photos and pictures of Pogo to throw in the edit. Oh, yes. My own rosemary.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:23

Can you also send me some pictures of Pogo? Maybe.

unknown 1:06:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:31

I'm gonna keep on in.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:33

Sorry. Involuntary. I will sing that to him from now on. Do you really? I will sing that to him now. Every time he lays out in the sun, that is what I will think in my head.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

Um, I think Sarah Bath is trying to get Pogo back on camera. Pogo on camera, Pogo. Let's get some of that pink belly. Oh, look at that face. Oh yeah. Oh my god. Isn't he cute? He then his eyes, he's got like almost human eyes.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:12

He's got baby human eyes.

unknown 1:07:15

Oh God.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:16

That shit comes out of my mouth before I even know it's coming. Do you have I mean I really do? And it's only with songs. And I'm like, I didn't even know. What is that? Oh, Betty Davis eyes, but like I don't anyway.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:33

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:34

God, he's so precious.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:36

How old is he? Uh he's like four and a half.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:40

Oh god, he's just a baby.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:42

The baby. Oh, God, I love dogs. I know. I can't wait to see your new puppy. Oh, yeah. Are you gonna like wait until you get there to choose one? Or are you gonna need me to choose?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:54

I'm not sure what we're gonna do. Yeah, I think that he needs me to choose. Um I almost want to let if others go, like, I just would like a girl. Um yeah. Unfortunately, the one that I would really like is male, and he's the runt, and God bless him. All of them look very different.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:12

Why not a why not the runt? A boy.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:14

I want a girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:16

Mainly because I like to rub a girl dog belly because then there's not a fucking penis there. Like it's all like in the shit. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:24

Gross. There's always something on it. I know. Oh god. Poor Paolo.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:30

I can only pet like this this much of his belly because the rest of it, and he has a huge penis. I don't, I know that's gross, but like the vet did tell me that he had the largest ball to body ratio that she'd ever seen. That's what she said to me. And I said, Do you should I make a speech? Do you want my picture? Never had anyone say ball.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:55

Do I need to get him into doggy porn?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:57

Or do we need what are you trying to say here, Doc?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:02

Is this a lucrative opportunity? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:06

Ball to body ratio. Never heard that before. Those were the days.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:12

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:13

Anyway, that's why I want a girl. I'm good now.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:18

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:19

On that note, goodbye. I'm so sorry. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:22

Shut the front door, Courtney.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:26

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